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Question for everyone out there who has a 9.3x62. For whatever reason, I would kind of like to pick a rifle up in this caliber. Seems like a trimmer and lighter rifle to do pretty much everything my CZ-550 375 H&H can do.

How did you guys go about procurring this odd but, seemingly, wonderful caliber? Custom built or did you buy a factory gun (seems like CZ is the only CRF factory option). For those of you who did the custom route, I'm curious if you could provide a ball-park figure on what the upgrade cost.

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If you already have a 270 or 30-06, or find a nice one with a worn barrel, you can send it to someone like Danny Peterson over in Prescott, AZ and have him re-bore it to 9.3x62. There should be little other work required.


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Question for everyone out there who has a 9.3x62. For whatever reason, I would kind of like to pick a rifle up in this caliber. Seems like a trimmer and lighter rifle to do pretty much everything my CZ-550 375 H&H can do.

How did you guys go about procurring this odd but, seemingly, wonderful caliber? Custom built or did you buy a factory gun (seems like CZ is the only CRF factory option). For those of you who did the custom route, I'm curious if you could provide a ball-park figure on what the upgrade cost.

Thanks in advance!


CZ makes a very affordable gun in this caliber, and Steyr makes the Prohunter in 9.3x62 in a systhetic version, and the Steyr Classic in wood. Let me know if you're interested, PM me and I'll get you a price on one. Mike


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I think the CZ550 FS in this chambering would be a slick little number.
 
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I own a CZ 550 FS in 9.3 x 62 and can honestly say it is, out of the box, one of the best rifles that I have ever owned both from an overall balance and accuracy perspective. I would not hesitate in recommending that you go for the CZ. It will most certainly be part of my battery on a Zim hunt next year.
 
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If you already have a 270 or 30-06, or find a nice one with a worn barrel, you can send it to someone like Danny Peterson over in Prescott, AZ and have him re-bore it to 9.3x62. There should be little other work required.


+1! Assuming you have a rifle preference that doesn't come in that caliber, this is a good way to go. I had a Remington Model 30 Express in 30-06 rebored and chambered by Danny for about $350 including shipping both ways a couple of years back. Simple conversion with no other work required.

Can't go wrong with the CZ either.


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How did you guys go about procurring this odd but, seemingly, wonderful caliber?

Build.....a M-98 large ring action works quite well.


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My first 9.3x62 was built from a custom FN 30-06 pawn shop find that I had Cliff LaBounty rebore in 2000. It had a really nice set of sights that I wanted to keep hence I went the rebore route, cheaper than a rebarrel too. I have another, a '60's vintage about new Husqvarna utilizing the same action that I will likely sell.
 
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I also like the idea of reboring an existing rifle, particularly a classic Mauser 98 of some sort.


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Tip Burns had a used 9.3x62 in a pro-hunter in his shop. www.canyonsportingarms.com

He also had a 2 new Mauser M03 in one:

1. a trail model (that he had an excellent price on


By coachsells at 2009-07-09

2. A standard model M03 with grade 3 wood also.


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I went both ways, bought a cz 550 medium lux and built a heym barreled Husky 51series FN 98 commercial actioned x62 in a composite stock with bedding block as well.

I would just buy the CZ
 
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I was lucky enough to find 2 Husquvarna large ring 98's in 9.3x62. They're not the nicest looking rifles but they are a pleasure to shoot and carry. If you keep looking they come up once in a while.


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If you can find one of the Husky 146's in 9.3x62 that were imported a few years back they are wonderful rifles and no more expensive than the CZ'z.

Here is a photo of the Enfield 30-06 that Danny re-bored for me in 9.3x62. It is a great shooter



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I have a 9.3x63 built with an excellent Lothar Walther barrel on an ex .30-06 FN Mauser 98 action. It is cheaper to buy a factory rifle but more satisfying to build one.

If you can pick up a cheap CRF Mauser action (one of your stated goals) then the cost of a re barrel with an el-cheapo stock will be close to the cost of a factory rifle. You maybe able to find a 2nd hand Parker Hale or Zastava '98 with all the mods done, accessorys in place and just in need of a barrel.

I have heard of .270 actions without modifying, not feeding as smoothly as a .30-06 action. Also be aware the 9.3x62 is not a modified .30-06 case despite what some people believe.
 
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I'd be inclined to build, unless I could find a suitable rifle to have re-bored/re-chambered.

Rumor has it that Ruger will be offering an M77 of some sort in 9.3x62 next year. Might merit some consideration.
 
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Rumor has it that Ruger will be offering an M77 of some sort in 9.3x62 next year. Might merit some consideration.


I'm not sure if the popularity is nation wide...it sure is AR wide.

I built mine solely because of the press it got here.....and must say....it wasn't oversold ....It's a very fine round.

I'd be happy to see Winchester make a limited run and Remington as well.....Maybe the Vanguard will be available so chambered....

That said....I suspect it's not at all as popular nationally as it is here. If you want one there has been a lot of ways posted here to get one.


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I was in Tip's shop last saturday and got to fondle that gun with the blaze orange on it. It was most interesting. Note the location of the rear sight! It lines up faster than any other irons I have ever tried. I commented that the only thing better would be a fiber optic, which Tip produced rapidly and placed on the barrel while I held it up.....PERFECTION!

If it fits you, buy it!

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How did you guys go about procurring this odd but, seemingly, wonderful caliber?

Build.....a M-98 large ring action works quite well.


I agree. I have customized several cz550's and with work they can be made into light trim rifles. But, not as trim as a nicely built 98. By the time you add all the trimmings, the cz is no less expensive than building off a 98.

here's a cz I worked over:




Here's a pair of Husky 146's:



And a nice little work in progess on a 98 action:

This one goes 6.5 lbs.




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Question for everyone out there who has a 9.3x62. For whatever reason, I would kind of like to pick a rifle up in this caliber. Seems like a trimmer and lighter rifle to do pretty much everything my CZ-550 375 H&H can do.

How did you guys go about procurring this odd but, seemingly, wonderful caliber? Custom built or did you buy a factory gun (seems like CZ is the only CRF factory option). For those of you who did the custom route, I'm curious if you could provide a ball-park figure on what the upgrade cost.

Thanks in advance!


CZ's are generally good and relatively cheap, but when I saw the plastic on it, the poor recoil pad, the ugly sights, I knew I had to get a custom built one and pay 3 times more at the time. Not sure what you would pay in the States.

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DWM action made in Berlin, Germany
Thor trigger (Timney copy, but in steel, not aluminium)
Drop-down magazine - holding 5 rounds plus 1 in the chamber
Winchester-type safety, custom made by Steve

Steel work:
Vektor hammer-forged barrel - 23"
Rigby express-sights with 1 standing, and 2 flip-ups.
Barrel band & inletted swivel for the rear one - barrel band in front.
Leupold QR base & rings (subsequently taken off and replaced with Recknagels)

Stock:
Grade 6 Turkish Walnut in a London oil finish
Rigby style stock
Steel grip cap
2 Cross Bolts
Pachmeyer recoil pad (Solid black)

The top one is the 9,3.



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z1r,

The CZ that you worked over look great.
Are those Warne rings?

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As a result of a friend who extolled the virtues of the 9,3x62, I bought a CZ550 American in that chambering from a member here.

Was $400 for the rifle, 100 Norma cases, and a die set. Obviously before they became popular and before all prices started up.

This rifle had no plastic parts and turned out to be an MOA shooter.

It went to Africa because of a scope failure on another rifle the week I was to leave. May have been most fortunate as the 9,3x62 proved itself to be wonderfully effective with single shot DRT kills on Wildebeast, Warthog, and Zebra.

I like the chambering so much that I built a working gun on a VZ.24 action and these have become my "go to' rifles.

Your approach really becomes a function of what you want to do and how well funded you are. The full custom route can produce a wonderful rifle that is fit to become a family heirloom that you can enjoy now. The cheaper custom or CZ will give you a great working rifle that can still work for a son or daughter when the time comes.


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I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3X62 that I'm not compleatly satisfied with because of the lack of low rings. I would love for Ruger to make one with the express sights they use on the African and Alaskan rifles. I can get low rings for them. I would also like to have a faster repeater chambered to the round, like maybe a Rem 7600 pump or a Win 95.


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I would also like to have a faster repeater chambered to the round, like maybe a Rem 7600 pump

I'll just bet there's someone on this forum that can make just that for you! tu2


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Really compact? If that is your basic need, buy a Blaser R93 Professional with the standard (22.5") barrel and the gun will be 40" OAL...


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I bought my Simson pre-1912 Mauser 98 with full length integral rib & octagon to round barrel profile. The rifle have a perfect bore but pitted on the outside & a damaged stock which had not seen much use - it cost me US500 including dies and 20 new Norma cases and some projectiles. I then had it rust blued, new stock and put a scope on it & I am very happy with it.

I like Phill's idea of re-boring an old 30'06.


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Is CRF a deal breaker, or alternatively how "pretty" do you want to go? You could pick up a pawn shop or classified ads Savage 30-06 and do it yourself.

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Is CRF a deal breaker, or alternatively how "pretty" do you want to go? You could pick up a pawn shop or classified ads Savage 30-06 and do it yourself.

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Why buy a Savage & rebarrel when for about the same amount of money you can buy a New CZ?

My 2 cents.




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I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3X62 that I'm not compleatly satisfied with because of the lack of low rings. I would love for Ruger to make one with the express sights they use on the African and Alaskan rifles. I can get low rings for them. I would also like to have a faster repeater chambered to the round, like maybe a Rem 7600 pump or a Win 95.

Gpopper, Talley makes low rings for the CZ and they're quite good, IMHO.
 
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Is CRF a deal breaker, or alternatively how "pretty" do you want to go? You could pick up a pawn shop or classified ads Savage 30-06 and do it yourself.

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Why buy a Savage & rebarrel when for about the same amount of money you can buy a New CZ?

My 2 cents.


Agreed, the CZ would be the least fuss solution.

I was just throwing out another option, if the OP is a tinkerer and is patient enough to sneak up on a smoking deal for a very pedestrian rifle, he would then have the basis for a "system" of chamberings like the TC Contender.
 
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I won a CZ 550 in 9.3X62. I think it is a good rifle. I now own a Mauser M03. If I were starting from scratch I'd seriously look at getting M03 in 9.3X62.

When you decide to get another caliber, at most it's a barrel, a bolt face and a magazine.

My 375 & 404 Jeffery barrels a very accurate. After the first of the year I will be buying a match barrel in either .308 Win or .223 to shoot 300 yard F Class with my M03.


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What about a M70 as a platform for the 9.3x62?
 
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Vapo, who engraved your lettering ?


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Toomany Tools did it for me and the bluing as well.


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If you can find an old, well worn rifle, you can either have it re-bored like the Enfield done by Dan Peterson (dan@cutrifle.com) to 9.3x62 or rebarreled like Norm Johnson at High Plains re-boring and barrels (nrjonsn@westriv.com) did on this pre-64 M-70 30-06. Norm did this one with a stainless steel bbl as he knew I would be using it in Alaska.


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Is CRF a deal breaker

I've got both PF and CRF, and prefer the CRF actions. I guess I buy into all the hype.

I don't need one immediately, I'm just always on the look out for a nice donor action or one that's already setup and ready to go in 9.3x62. As long as the metal work is sound, I can deal with whatever the stock may need.


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Here is the cheapest way to go if you want all new. Get a new Savage or Stevens (3006 270Win) rifle that will start at about $350. A drop in blued CM barrel in 9.3x62 will start at about $205(Shaw)or $280 at 4d Reamer. 4D rents headspace dies sets for $8. All that you then need is a gunsmith that has changed a Savage barrels to put barrel on (cost about $60). You will then have the new takeoff barrel that you can sell ($40???). If you know someone that has a barrel vice there are videos on U-Tube that shows how to change the barrels and all that you would need is a barrel wrench that 4D rents and you would save the gunsmith cost.
 
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Here is the cheapest way to go if you want all new. Get a new Savage or Stevens (3006 270Win) rifle that will start at about $350. A drop in blued CM barrel in 9.3x62 will start at about $205(Shaw)or $280 at 4d Reamer. 4D rents headspace dies sets for $8. All that you then need is a gunsmith that has changed a Savage barrels to put barrel on (cost about $60). You will then have the new takeoff barrel that you can sell ($40???). If you know someone that has a barrel vice there are videos on U-Tube that shows how to change the barrels and all that you would need is a barrel wrench that 4D rents and you would save the gunsmith cost.


Thanks for that information..... tu2

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Did you read the first 7 words? Brownell sells a Shaw kit (barrel-wrench-headspace dies) in 458Win for $210. Starting with a 338win/7Rem Mag Savage a person could have a 458Win for less than $600. Who knows when a rail car loaded with Cape buffalo will overturn near house?
 
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