You are not homeless, and please discuss your X62's, X64's and X74's here.

There is a local shop that has a couple of 16 ga X 9,3X74 doubles, and I'd love to pick one of them up.

I have two of them. One is a mint original Husqvarna Mauser I recently picked up, the other is a custom FN 30-06 that I bought at a pawn shop and had Cliff LaBounty rebore. I plan on taking one of them to RSA (eland, kudu, nyala, gemsbuck, etc.) in June but am struggling with which to take. Either lays anything in an inch for three shots all using VV-N550 powder. I'm talking 250 gr Branes X's, 250 gr Ballistic Tips, 232 gr Norma Oryx's, 270 gr Speers and 286 gr Partitions. Doesn't matter much, all give velocities that generate the same energy levels (3700 ft-lbs or so). I am leaning towards the "X" as it is the first "X" that I have been able to get to shoot well (and therefore have hunted with) in many rifles and calibers tried. Also, I will draw my elk tag in 2003 and will use one of 'em as well though my 338-06 and 375 H&H have proven themselves to date.

I also have two. A Husqvarna 1640 m 98 style in 9,3x62 and a Carl Gustaf 2000 in 9,3x62.
I used to have a Husq... in 9,3x57 but I sold it since we not are allowed to have more than six rifles here in Sweden.
In the Husqvarna i use woodleigh 320 grain bullets and in the CG Swift A-frames.
In June Norma will release their New Oryx in 286 grains and I will sure get a pack or two of them then...
The Husq.. is only equipped with iron sights since I only use it for day hunting at close ranges. The CG has a 3-12x56 Zeiss mounted in a Dovetail mount. I�m planning to buy a Kahles 1-4x24 to put on for day hunting, since the Zeiss is mostly for the night wild boar hunting.

I have two as well. Both Huskies, a 9.3 x62 and an oddball 9.3 built on the 96 action. Originally I thought the oddball was a 9.3 x 57, but I got hold of some of that ammo, and that wasn't it. It's a longer case than a 57 and shorter than a 62. Actually 60mm long. I haven't found any factory ammo that matches yet. I've made cases from 06 brass, shortened and fireformed with 9.3 x 57 load data. If I knew how to post pictures I would post one. It's all fun though. - Dan

Hey, I also got one.
It's a 9,3x64 Brenneke build on a Mauser 98 action. It has a 23,5" Lothar Walther barrel.

This mother really pushes those 286 grs bullets!!

Magnar

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I had a custom 9.3x64 built on a Win M70 SS Classic action mated with a 25" Krieger bbl., Talley rings/bases, Leupold M8-4X, NECG open sights all housed in (hold your tongues!) an MPI stock. A real hammer!

The 9,3 bore is a graet diameter. I would like to see Federal do a High Energy load with the 320 grs Woodleigh and have a new winchester m70 SS to shoot it out of. I have witnessed many clients drop several heads of game with the 9,3 and I have a great amount of respect for it

Hey Daryl, how's that MPI stock working out for you? I've been thinking of ordering one to try on a big bore Enfield, and I'm curious. Could you post some pics? Thanks - Dan

As some of you, I have got an old Husqvarna 146 in 9.3x57. A nice gun with less recoil than to be expected from that caliber. it has only iron sights but is stocked like a good shotgun. I get 5" pattern freehand at 80 yards - a better shooter than me could get the half of that.

Fritz

Dan, had some trouble with the pic site but here goes:
I've had this stock for about 15 yrs. so I can't say what recent ones are like but I like mine very much and have bedded and prepped many recent ones without too many problems. Daryl

Thanks Daryl. I like the looks of that. I think I'll try one. - Dan

No we can't we need our own forum!

Mines a x62 on an Argy with Churchill stock and a 1.5-6x42. I realy like it. It sits in the other cabinet and comes out to play every now and again.

The 9.3x62 is the most versatile (and one of the earliest) smokeless powder cartridge. http://www.hunters.com/africanhunter/rifels.htm#part2 I have two mannlicher-schoenauers, two Sako mannlichers, one Oberndorf Mauser and a CZ550FS (sold) in this caliber. I will soon add a Zoli 1900 Stutzen, a Frankonia mauser and Heym SR30 (all full stocks).

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Hi
My 9,3 is of the x62 varety. It is a Husqvarna 1600 built in 1963, probably never fired and in like new condition.
I have fitted Leupold QR mounts for my Helia 1,5-6x42 scope.

I will use this rifle for mosse the coming fall, loading with 286 gr Norma Oryx bonded bullets.

Softlead

Welcome SoftLead;
You are among good people here and there are quite a few of us who shoot the 9.3x62. My rifle is a CZ550 LUX it was my introduction to the grand old round. In the future I hope to have another one.

Cheers Paleohunter.

I had a CZ 550 American in 62 rechambered to 64. Very accurate. For all you 64 shooters out there, I have a source for RWS brass in Germany. $21/20 delivered to your door. Takes about 4 weeks. Cobalt

I have a 9.3X64 built on a FN Mauser/Pac-Nor barrel. Shoots the 250 gr Noslers into tiny little groups at 2800 fps.
Cobalt- Could you E-mail me your source for the RWS brass? Thanks-Rob

Mine is a 9.3 x 62 in a CZ-550 American...

I haven't killed anything with it yet, but I'm planning to take it to Alaska this September on a caribou hunt..

It's presently the most most accurate hunting rifle in my cabinet, printing 1/2 inch groups with Barnes 250 X bullets and RL-15....

I got tired of getting beat up by my .338 Win mag, and bought the 9.3 to rpelace the .338 as my elk/moose/anything in GRZZLY country rifle....

Pygmy,

How do you find the quality of your CZ550 American? Did you have to modify anything in any manner? Was the wood to metal fit acceptable? Did you have to have any bedding done?

I'm debating between the 35 Whelen, the 350 Rem Mag, 358 STA, and a few other wildcat 358s.

I've seen the 9.3x62 cartridge in the Speer Manual and it seems like a nice cartridge for deer & bear in PA.

How's die and brass availability?

I see that Nosler is making 250gr Bal Tips for it. You state that you are getting good loads from the Barnes X and RL-15.

Care to post a load or 2.

Your help is appreciated.

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Speak softly and carry a really big MAGNUM.

Regards,

Mark

Go with the 9,3 x 62 and shoot all of the game you want. It is a pure hunting cartridge. My experience has been with RWS ammo and it shoots well and harvests game cleanly

Pa Wildcatter....I've only got a minute now but will get back to you later when I have time to chat.

Meanwhile, check my posts in the thread " CZ 550" by Otto in the Big game forum...

Pygmy,

Again, thanx for your feedback.

General question for this thread.

If my local gunshop can't get the 9.3x62 CZ 550 American, who should I go to to get the gun?

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Speak softly and carry a really big MAGNUM.

Regards,

Mark

Mine started out as a Husky M96 potatolobber (9.3x57) that I had rechambered to 62mm. Then I added a Swedish diopter peep rear sight. With its light weight and laid back round knob pistol grip it points like a shotgun and hits like the hammer of Thor (another good Swede!) It is a veritable pocket rocket, I tell you. Though with its steel buttplate it is no fun off the bench, in field position it just plain feels good. I am praying for a cow elk tag this autumn to try it out on. Who knows? I might like it as well as my .318 WR!

Sarge

I just called up J&G Sales in Prescott, Arizona, credit card in hand, and ordered it...I then sent them a copy of the FFL from my local gundealer, and when it arrived there they sent it to him...

A year ago it cost me just $450, including tax and a few bucks for my dealer for his trouble...

Mine is still in gestation. A Ruger 77 (old style) being fitted with a Walther Lothar bbl 22", walnut laminate stock, Warne QD RTZ rings, bbl band, single leaf express sight,
skeleton grip cap. Topped with a leupold 1.75x6.

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The sole purpose of a rifle is to please its owner

I've heard a bit about this caliber - all of it good.

Have the desire to buy or build a 9.3x62 one day, but I also got the crazy idea about building a rifle around a .308 case necked up to 9.3mm. It would seem to me that it would do, ballistically, as well as or better than the 358 win., being of the same parent cartridge and slightly larger bore.

Any thoughts on this?

TXLoader

There is barely enough powder capacity in the .308 case to move the .358 along respectable velocities. You would obviously have the same problems with a heavier bullet. I've heard folks neck the .350 Rem mag up to .375 with good results. That would make a better use of the 9.3, but I would stick to the 9.3x62, it has a great track record. http://www.hunters.com/africanhunter/rifels.htm#part2

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I have a 9.3mm wildcat. It's basically a 404 Jeffrey necked down and improved. It's built on a nice custom '03 springfield rifle. I purchased this outfit cheap a few years back and have played around with it ever since. In a strong actioned rifle this cartridge could deliver very impressive ballistics. In my rifle I'm not altogether comfortable with the choice of action so I don't push velocitys past those of the 9.3x64. I believe a cartridge similar to this was commercially produced in Europe at sometime but don't know it's name or manufacturer. Maybe someone knows about this?

RJW

Just curious. I've very impressed with loads based on the .308 case...all seem to be extremely accurate cartridges. I've got a 338/308 project in the planning stages, and the thought hit me about this bore as well. From what I can gather about .365-.366 bullets, they seem to fall into the same category as the .338: high sectional density and ballistic coefficients compared to equal weight bullets in the calibers around it (.358 and .375). As said, bullet selection is poor in the States, but enough from the right companies to spark my interest.

TXLoader

I know the 9.3x62 is quite popular in Africa and Europe, and the bore seems to be gathering some interest here in the States now. I do know I'll be adding the 9.3x62 to my collection some day

I have 4 barrels for my old 98 action,a 6.5x55,308 win,30-06,and 9.3x62.Since installing the 9.3 barrel last spring the others just sit in my cabinet,this caliber is amazing,it always hits where it`s pointed no matter what load I feed it.From 90gr. Speer makarov bullets over aa5744,to the 286gr norma s.p. over a good charge of rl-15 and all weights in between.can`t wait `till Dec. to try it on elk(finally drew a cow license)will post result.going to use the nosler b.t. 250gr. over 58gr of rl-15.

I'm in the "62" camp with one modern and one classic. My first 9.3x62 was a Husqvarna, which I sold to a good friend when I bought a 9.3x62 barrel for my Blaser R93. And I recently acquired a pre-WWI Oberndorf "Special African" Mauser in that caliber.

Mine is a CZ 550 full stocked, CZ mount, Kahles scope.

It shoots less than 1", 3 shots with oil shot ( carefully dried, but still a clean bore ) clearly set up from the rest ( still within the 1"!!). One day I make three shots with fouling shot before, but I fear I might sell my other rifles then ?!?!?

Only problem is to keep the scope staying motionless in the rings ...

Hermann

I picked up my CZ 550 American on Saturday and spent the weekend forming cases and mounting a scope. My wife will be out of town for the next ten days, leaving me on the child care tether until she returns, but load testing will commence on her return.

On the whole, this rifle is as crisply done as what Remington, Ruger or Winchester turn out these days, if not a bit better. The trigger is light and crisp right out of the box, even without using the set feature, and wood-to-metal fit is nice.

I bought this rifle for a very specific use and I need some opinions about executing. A friend of mine manages several coffee farms. He has trouble with feral hogs rooting in the fields, so he catches them in snares and shoots them at ranges from 10 feet to 25 meters. (On occasion, a hog will break the snare as the shooter approaches, but that's another story.) He has accepted my offer of help, leaving me in the delightful position of having to shoot irate hogs at very close range. When I'm not doing that, I will use the rifle for bears and elk in western Washington.

Here is my plan for this rifle: this application screams for a ghost ring, with a scope as an alternate. (I considered making a Scout rifle out of this, but after having used one for three years, I know that I need more scope than 2.5x.) The good people at Ashley Outdoors tell me that my gunsmith can mill the bottom of their Remington/Weaver back-up sight flat and screw it to the bridge. Then I'll have him mill flat the bottom of a Leupold QRW base, screw it to the receiver ring and mount a Leupold 4x scope on it in Leupold QRW rings. I'm also going to have him cut the barrel to 22", mount a front sight and rig for a Ching sling.

Regarding ammo: I hear from several reliable sources that the 270 Speer semi-spitzer is too soft for hogs and bears, but I assume this is at relatively high velocity. At the same time, the Speer is the most common 9.3mm bullet in the US, so it only makes sense to have some kind of load worked up for it. Given the short ranges involved, what if I cut the velocity to 9.3x74R velocities of around 2,200 fps? Do we think the 270 Speer would hold up?

Merde! I hit the "Add Reply" button too soon. Here is the rest of the post: It seems like having a load with solids is a good idea. Has anyone used the Barnes Homogenous Solid in 9.3mm? I tried it in a 35 Whelen but could not make it shoot better than about 4 MOA and pressures were high.

One final note: I emailed the folks at Graf and Sons to thank them for getting Hornady to load ammo for Swiss, Arisaka and Carcano rifles. I also asked if they would help us get ammo for the 9.3x62. They replied that the metric military rifle ammo program was surpassing expectations. They also said they were pondering which other cartridges to add, and that 9.3x62 Mauser was a serious contender. Think about it: Hornady brass and component bullets in 9.3mm. I think a few hundred more emails to Hornady and to jeff@grafs.com might do the trick. Can I get a witness?

As always, thanks in advance. Okie John.

Considering the close range, I'd want either irons or a low power scope. If you have an unhappy piggy on a line bouncing around, and all you see in the scope is fur, then you'll really wish you had the irons.

I'm sure the speer 270 @ 2200 fps would be a dandy. If Hornady is coming out with componets, a 286 or better yet 300 gr rn would be the cat's meow.

This 9.3X62 talk has got me thinking. I have a VZ-24 action lying around that needs to be barreled as something. The 9.3X62 just might be it

Mine it's a x62, also in gestation, mauser action, single leaf NECG classic sight and Lothar Walther barrel.
With the dollar raising 100% in the last 9 months, it will be at the 'smith's home some time, this man seems to live in some other planet !!
LG

Mine is a 9.3x64 on a sweet early 40's German 98 with a 24 in barrel.Metal work by Ralf Martini and a Bultler Creek Synth. stock topped with a 1.5x4.5 B&L scope. This thing shoots a little over an inch at 200 yds with 270gr Speers and 250 gr Noslers. Moose season opened yesterday so further testing may have to wait til spring.

I'd just like to let the group know that they have corrupted me The plans are for a Lothar Walther 25.6" 9.3X62 pre-chambered tube to be mated to a VZ-24 action. I'm thinking of setting it up as an english style iron sighted rifle, though I'll likely go with an apeteure rear sight over an island ramp.

A new convert welcome
Soon as you get it built you get the decoder ring and the secret handshake

I have been biten by the 9.3 bug also. I have a Husky 640 in 9.3x62 being shipped to me as I type this. It seems that the Huskys are quite popular in this caliber. Can anyone point me in the direction of any good data on Husquavana rifles. Who knows I may retire my 350 Rem Mag.