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bucko
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Folks after the other discussion on bullets I was wondering what people thought on this subject.
I am sure that probably there are more but in my opinion I can only come up with 3 real changes that have made a significant difference.
1, slower and more consistant powders
2, quality of telescopic sights
3, quality of the new premium bullets
I am just curious what improvements you beleive have been made in the last 100 years that have truly increased our level of efficiency in the hunting game.


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what improvements you beleive have been made in the last 100 years that have truly increased our level of efficiency in the hunting game.


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none actually they already had the 7&8 mauser
the 30-30 and 30-06. the 22lr etc.
and the various "big" cartridges 405 win
45-70 etc...... and nothing is any deader now than it was then...
 
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greatest advancements in last 100 years??

  • Modern toilet paper. Wink
  • Paved highways and roads. thumb
  • Ease of travel to fish and hunt.
    dancing

    The bullet design advancement can be thought of as an artificial creation to accompany the unneeded super velocity cartridges. shockerroger


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    Cash because it takes a bunch now days .

    Roger ; Toilet Paper ?. What do you think news papers are for !. rotflmo

    On the up side one doesn't quite need as many bearers on safari now . Because of cash !. You needn't take 20K rounds to fend off the natives as now you simply fork over Cash .
    They also will be happy to inform you where the best game animals are likely to be found , for cash .

    Did I mention CASH ?.

    Improvements in the following are responsible .
    Transportation ,powders , Rifles , optics, bullet design .

    Which all require CASH !. Optics are real important now days. Because the areas of which game are in , as well as game it's self is diminishing . So it's harder to sneak up on them !. Or something like that .


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    NON-CORROSIVE PRIMERS. All the rest pales into insignificance by comparison. Those that are old enough to have had to endure corrosive primers - and seen the ruin it caused - will always think this the single most beneficial advance in metallic smokeless cartridge technology.
     
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    The .375 H&H, since it is 96 years young. It is the most important big bore cartridge of the last 100 years and parent of too many to list; it remains the standard of all modern cartridges. thumb
     
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    To me it would be the introduction of synthetic stocks and stainless steel actions and barrels.


     
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    thongs dancing


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    NESIKA308
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    quote:
    Originally posted by cobra:
    To me it would be the introduction of synthetic stocks and stainless steel actions and barrels.



    gotta second this one
     
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    quote:
    Originally posted by NESIKA308:
    quote:
    Originally posted by cobra:
    To me it would be the introduction of synthetic stocks and stainless steel actions and barrels.



    gotta second this one


    Yup.


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    In terms of rifle accuracy and performance, it would have to be the telescopic sights we have today; the excellent powders that are being produced (I would not limit myself to just the slow onesWink and the excellent bullets which not only perform well but are extremely accurate. If I could add one more item, it would be the primers which tie the combination all together.

    A great many factory rifles can produce groups in the 1.5" range with some work. Rifles that have been "worked on" can produce sub-moa groups with little or no trouble. Kudude

    But you gotta love the thong.
     
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    Modern rifles and ammo had been fairly well developed by 1908, including modern bolt action rifles, smokeless powder, scopes, and ammo (e.g., 30-06). Since then, these components have been refined and improved gradually over the past 100 years.

    IMO, the most significant advance within the last 100 yrs that has increased "hunting efficiency" has been the widespread installation of state game and fish departments with clear-cut law enforcement and management of game by regulating commercial hunting, stopping poaching, and the setting of hunting seasons and limits. Without wildlife regulation, we'd have no game to hunt.
     
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    McFox
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    Trigger technology has improved tremendously. Something our US-mates can hardly ever make use of though - at least in US made factory rifles.
     
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    Sako and good optics. Big Grin


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    Optics for sure. Everything else could be tweeked to work, but nothing beats great glass when you want to hit small targets @ distance.


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    the phillips head screw.
     
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    Todays bullets and sliced white bread...

    Most of you youngsters were not around back in the early years when all bullets failed from time to time and expanded with uncertainty...The best bullet was the Sierra, and they plenty soft..The Rem. Bronze point that killed like the hammer of Thor or failed completely, it was a crap shoot...The Silvertips worked ever once in awhile; the Corelokt was the best bullet going in those days but you sure didn't want to speed them up and the RN was better than the spitzer...The great old WW Open Point Expanding was dy-no-mite on deer but it blew up inside them every time. Then along came WW2 and ammo was no more, but some black market GI ball could be had and we had a lot of it...we filed the nose down to lead and it either killed the deer like a lightening strike or you had a long drawn out tracking job on your hands, but we never lost one, because my dad and grandad could track a deer by the imprint its shadow left on a rock..

    Yep, todays bullets are first class and failures are the exception rather than the rule, just the opposite of yesteryear...

    Then there is sliced white bread, and thats a given! clap


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    I am torn between breast implants and monolithic projectiles for first place.

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    monte carlo stocks
     
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    Breast implants.



     
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    Itroduction of tipped bullts, then with bonding and then monometals with tips....all to increse the velocity range will enable them to set up.

    Better barrels..........

    And better scopes.

    The last two as a result of major improvemnts in benchrest.


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    Scopes and bullets are a lot better.


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    I am torn between breast implants and monolithic projectiles for first place.



    That was great clap


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    quote:
    Originally posted by bucko:
    1, slower and more consistent powders
    2, quality of telescopic sights
    3, quality of the new premium bullets
    IMHO you hit the nail on the head for 99% of hunters out there, for the most part.
    Except I would have put them in the reverse order you had them.
    1, quality of the new premium bullets
    2, quality of telescopic sights
    3, slower and more consistent powders

    Ray is absolutely correct on this:
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    Originally posted by Atkinson:
    ...Yep, todays bullets are first class and failures are the exception rather than the rule, just the opposite of yesteryear...

    It really doesn’t matter how good the optics are (longer, more consistent shots),
    how consistent your powder is (less SD, increased velocity, safety), if when the bullet arrives, it fails to do its job.

    Thongs are nice, too. Wink


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    Synthetic motor oil.

    Took a scope inside the Honda Odyssey motor last Saturday. Still looks brand new and has 80K miles. Looked inside Toyota Sienna and it has tons of build up. Despite the fact that I changed the Sienna oil every 2500 miles on dino (Valvoline oil), it runs fine but looks like crap inside. Has 150K on it now. Sold it to a friend at 85K. The way the sludge looks, it appears as if any chunk of it could break off and become a floater.


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    Breast implants.


    Hmm. a wise man once told me
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    As far as this... At the risk of being a little coarse when holding and hunting with a synthetic I get the same feeling as when hunting and holding synthetic breasts....

    Rifles are rifles and tits are tits some are for looking at and some are there to get the job done, and in the case of a rifle that is to put blood on the ground.


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    1) noncorrosive primers
    2) 9.3X62
    3) better optics
     
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    I would like to have put the 7x57 and 6.5x55 Mauser cartridges but they are both over one hundred years old Wink
     
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    i am surprised to see that nobody has mentioned CNC-machining.

    as to cartridges, there are a lot of great calibers that are younger than 100 years.
    if we say 80 years, nothing sensible has happened on the cartridge-front.
     
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