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Anyone have one of these? Still snowing out here in Colorado, and I've seen a couple of very reasonable ones on gunbroker. I'm kinda tempted ... I need a varmint rifle. Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | ||
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I have owned two mark V rifles and was disappointed in the accuracy of both. | |||
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Thanks for the warning, I've owned three Rem 700s (still have two of them) all extremely accurate, one Ruger M77 wasn't nearly as accurate and got rid of it, and now a CZ Safari very accurate. Someone once said, "only accurate rifles are interesting" Thanks again, Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I have an old german made 300 weatherby Mark V (made by JP Saur) I bought in 1973. It shoots well ( about 1") but has the 24" barrel. The stock on these older units are trimmer than the units made is the past 25 years. I worked all summer long and bought that rifle. I was 16 years old. I think I paid $315.00 for it. It has the original Leupold 3X9 var X II on it. EZ | |||
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The Weatherby MKV Deluxe is a very nice rifle in my opinion. I've been around a few and all shoot extremely well. The .300 bee is an outstanding cartridge. | |||
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I think I'll wait until my 500 Jeffery gets here, then rethink it. I'm guessing recoil won't be much of an issue with the 300 after shooting the Jeffery. Thanks all, Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Just curious as to what type of varmint would need a 300 weatherby to take it down? | |||
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Antelope, mule deer, javelina if I visit a friend in Arizona. I'll use the 500 Jeffery for elk and bear just to get comfortable with it. Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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You seem to have some sort of anti-Weatherby agenda as I have read this same repetitive post many a time over the internet. You once even claimed they exceeded the Weatherby guarantee but you didn't like the gloss and wood. WTF did you buy them in the first place dimwit? | |||
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I posted a similar post previously,for the simple reason that I was very disappointed with the accuracy of both rifles.That has not changed.Yes they both met the 1-1/2" accuracy guarantee,but 1-1/2" is a joke for a gun costing as much as a Mark V.As for the gloss and wood comment,well smartass,your memory isn't as good as you think since both of my rifles were the Fibermark model,which do not have wood stocks. | |||
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+1.... sounds like this guy not to happy with his remington and this gun not cheap. http://forums.accuratereloadin...3221043/m/3001024501 | |||
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The Sendero is about $500 cheaper than an Accumark,or $800 cheaper than a Mark V deluxe.My Fibermarks were about double the price of a 700BDL when I purchased them. | |||
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wants that got to do with anything he still paid over 1100 for it. | |||
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You said the gun wasn't cheap.Compared to a Mark V Deluxe or Accumark it is cheap. | |||
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depends when i bought my accumarks they only cost me 1100 and they shoot great. | |||
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And the fact that he isn't happy with his Remington has nothing to do with the fact that my Mark Vs were a disappointment in the accuracy department. | |||
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I have Euro-Marks in 30/06 and 460 Wby; Weathermarks in 7mm Wby and 300 Wby; and an Accu-Mark in .375 H & H. All are very accurate and the 7mm, 375 and 460 are exceptional. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many good books, or too much ammunition." Rudyard Kipling | |||
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and it just goes to show you there are turd guns built every day that don't shoot. | |||
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For the price,the Mark V should not be a "turd "gun. | |||
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my guess is you didn't pay as much for your fibermark as he just did for that remington my guess you paid about 800 to 900 for it at the time, if that. | |||
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back to the topic at hand..... The .300 Weatherby is without a doubt among the finest .30 cal magnums ever. You can get more but not a lot more.....It's among the finest elk cartridges a going and works well for a lot of other big game. That said it's not a lot more than a .300 Win Mag and the Win Mag is available in many more models.....many can be purchased used for $400....and I have one here for that! Also ammo is more available with the Win Mag and usually a lot less costly. I'd sure not look down on a guy with a .300 Weatherby.....but in fact he has very little more than the guy with a .300 Win Mag! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I paid about double what a Remington 700 cost at the time. | |||
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I see Remingtons ti selling for as much as Weatherbys deluxes and accumarks | |||
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What would Weatherby charge for a rifle with a titanium action if they sold one? | |||
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Hey Chuck, I've seen a good many guys with 300WbyMags come to Hunt with us in the Carolinas. Most wanted a Stand with the potential for a somewhat long shot and we had plenty of those available. A nephew of the land owner came by with a buddy as they were returning from an Elk Hunt out West. He had a Wby Deluxe that looked like it had never been outside, but apparently he hunted with it a good bit all over the place. If I'd done that, the metal would have had brown pits all over it and the wood would have resembled an old fence post. Anyway, we didn't have long to get them on Stands and the Wby guy said he'd just as soon have a short range shot as a longer one - he didn't care just so he saw some Deer. So, we put him on a Power Line Stand where he had potential for both near and far. He might have been there 20min when we heard the 300WbyMag report. One shot which was a good sign and off we go to see what he had Killed. He told us a Doe had walked out of the woods facing him, about 15yds away, and he felt sure he had hit her. Took 6 of us about an hour to find her and she had only gone "maybe" 15yds, but when she entered the woods she circled behind him. No blood trail at all which didn't make any sense. The Bullet went in on the right side of her Spine, just behind that shoulder, down through the Lung and on into the ground. However..., the Bullet transfered so much energy that part of her intestines were blown up between the Left Ham and Spine, out through the Skin and maybe a foot of them were outside the Doe. How she ever made it anywhere but straight down amazed all of us. Apparently some of the entrals blocked the Exit and the blood remained inside. He was using Factory 300WbyMag ammo with a 180gr Nosler Partition. Plenty of cartridge and Bullet for the Game, but it still went a bit sideways on us. You just never know what will happen. By the way, this is in no way intended as a put-down of the Cartridge. I remember it simply because of how strange it went after the shot. Great Cartridge - especially if you Reload and prefer 30cal Bullets on the HEAVY end of the scale. | |||
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What would Weatherby charge? I really don’t know do you? I don’t run their company. But I do see a lot of barrels being sold off of the TI. maybe they just don’t shoot I don’t know. | |||
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That is correct,you don't know. | |||
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Well please enlighten me why do you see barrels being sold off of them? Is it because they shoot so well? Or is it someone would be stupid enough to buy one for the action when they could buy a custom for about a 1/3 less. Come on smart guy clue me in. | |||
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Let me see you had exactly 2 of them both Jap made Mark V's as I recall a 257 and a 300 on one of your hundreds of posts concerning Weatherby. They have not been made Japanese made in roughly 13-14 years so how does that reflect on current US production ? You sound quite frankly like a phuckin broken record. | |||
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Oh come on now let him pled his case… after all how many times have we heard it. | |||
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How many custom titanium actions do you know of that fit the common sporting stocks,and would be suitable to build a lightweight mountain rifle?There is not a great selection available.I can tell you that I bought five 700 rifles myself,and took off the barrels without even firing a shot through them.I bought the rifles,because by the time that I sold the take off barrels and stocks,it was cheaper to buy the rifle than try to buy a stainless 700 barreled action.Do you not realize that more custom rifles are built with 700 actions than with any other action?Can you not understand that the result is more 700 take off barrels than with any other action?Why do you suppose that there are so few Mark V take off barrels available?Well genius,it is because there are so few custom rifles built on Mark V actions.
You have seen hundreds of posts by me on the subject?Well you must have read each one many times,because I haven't posted more than a dozen or so posts on the subject.And you must really be clueless if you read the same posts hundred of times and still thought that my Mark Vs had wooden stocks.
Not enough times to realize that my Mark Vs did not have wood stocks, | |||
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Well Homer I’ll call Homer since you like using him that proves it you as stupid as I thought. You could have bought a custom action for the price you would have in that Remington action after you buy the gun than spend money having it trued. Yea I know you sold the barrel and stock and made most of your money back. Yea Right Yes I realize more custom rifles are built on 700 than any other I have four myself. Gunsmiths love them not to hard to chuck up a piece of pipe. But I sure in hell didn’t buy one just for the action, it ether it didn’t shoot well or I shot the barrel out than had a custom built on it. My true custom is built on a Bat action. Your problem is that you always say Wheatherby’s aren’t or can’t be accurate which is BS. | |||
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Really?I challenge you to prove it.Go ahead and quote any post that I made anywhere that states what you have posted. What I did post was that I was disappointed in the accuracy of the two Mark V rifles that I owned. Perhaps you just lack the intelligence to comprehend the difference. Other peoples Mark Vs may well be very accurate,but mine were not.My completely stock 700s costing half as much were in fact more accurate than my Mark Vs.
Well Einstein(that was the name of a dog on back to the future by the way),I live in Canada,you know,that country to the North of the U.S.A.Well guess what,we don't have suppliers like Brownells here that sell 700 actions,or even barreled 700 actions.Our only choices are to pay a licensed broker to import a barrelled action from the U.S.A,pay for export and import permits,and pay the exchange rate,or we can buy a complete rifle here in Canada,and sell the parts that we don't need.Guess what,by the time we do all of the paperwork and import the barreled action,it costs just as much as buying a complete 700 SPS rifle.By selling the stock and take off barrel,we save time and paperwork,and even come out slightly ahead financially. | |||
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Well Einstein(that was the name of a dog on back to the future by the way),I live in Canada,you know,that country to the North of the U.S.A.Well guess what,we don't have suppliers like Brownells here that sell 700 actions,or even barreled 700 actions.Our only choices are to pay a licensed broker to import a barrelled action from the U.S.A,pay for export and import permits,and pay the exchange rate,or we can buy a complete rifle here in Canada,and sell the parts that we don't need.Guess what,by the time we do all of the paperwork and import the barreled action,it costs just as much as buying a complete 700 SPS rifle.By selling the stock and take off barrel,we save time and paperwork,and even come out slightly ahead financially.[/QUOTE] Yea Stupid nobody said barreled action I said custom action!!! As in Bat, Borden, Lawton, Pierce, Stiller, you know…. Well maybe you don’t but a true custom action. | |||
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Go on Stubble, tell them how much experience you have. That will sure convince them. | |||
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In Canada these actions start at around $1300 Canadian with trigger and bottom metal,while I can buy a complete stainless 700 SPS for under $700.That amounts to a difference of at least $600.It only costs me $125 to have an action trued and the lugs lapped,so I am still $475 ahead before selling the stock and barrel.I can easily get $150 for the stock and barrel,so the difference is around $625.For that price,I will gladly go with the lapped and trued 700 action.
Where do you think all that oil comes from that keeps flowing through your pipeline?Or how about the power that we sell you to keep your lights on?Or the lumber that we sell you to build houses?You aren't as self sufficient as you might think. | |||
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First off we have plenty of timberlands without yours infact they aren’t even logging much any more, but with nafta you guys got a place to dump yours and we don’t need your oil we actually have plenty if they would uncap it and drill and quit exporting our own oil to Japan and Korea. If we brought are manufactory jobs back to the states where they belong we would be in great shape. | |||
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On the whole the most accurate rifles I have ever owned. I own five of them and hunted Africa, North America with them. The down side is the expensive factory ammo but I reload. Excellent finish, wood to metal fit and I don't have to sweat the safety failing, the extractor breaking or the bolt falling off. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Are you telling me you wouldn’t feel comfortable with the bolt handle just lying in your hands while that buff is drawn a bead on you. | |||
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Nope, or the round failing to extract because that cheap-assed sheet metal extractor. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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