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Idaho Sharpshooter
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CZ chambers for these in Europe. I am trying my best to convince them to get me one for a write up this year. I keep telling them it could be as kickass as the 9,3x62.

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Originally posted by Frank Martinez:
This has been an interesting read. I have been shooting an 8x60 magnum bomb for a while making brass from 06 and lucky to have purchased some from Quality Cartridge as well. I was contemplating opening mine to 8x68 but have hesitated because it is so accurate now I don't want to screw it up. If LW has barrels I may switch and go with a new build.
/98's seem to be abundant enough and looking at mine there is lots of room to fit. 280 Ross (mythical at best) can be used and 300 HH can be used to make that if required so it seems to be a breeze. The last RWS ammo I saw was running 80 per box.
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Jeez, how hard is it to find brass? Grafs
I have ordered mine directly through Remier Johannsen in Deutschland before when I want RWS brass. Easy Peasy.

A wonderful cartridge and not at all difficult to convert a 98 to fire it. Oh, and feed it too.

I would leave my 8x60 alone and just build another in 8x68. I like the 8x60 too much to convert one. My 8x68 was built on a vz24 action. But I have used various 98's to accomplish the same thing.

And the 280 Ross, check Huntingtons.




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Yep. After checking, I too see that it is all available.
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Yep. After checking, I too see that it is all available.
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Huntingtons also has it. To be fair there have been periods of inavailability in the past but it seems the cartridge is too well liked for the drought to last long and it always finds its way back into circulation.

Well worth messing with IMO.




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It was during one of those periods of unavailability that I was making a decision to build a rifle in 8mm, faster than 8x57.

As I remember, the 325 had not yet been introduced or was just out. I didn't want the 8mm Rem Mag. So I finally decided what difference does it make what case is used as long as it delivers the bullet at the speed and accuracy wanted.

Also, another factor, the CIP specs for the 8x68S call for a 1/11" twist rate. I didn't want that. I didn't want to have to buy a reamer, but if it was necessary, because pre-chambered barrels like LW had the 11" twist, I figured I should get something with available brass, and fed with no gunsmith attention to feed rails, magazine, feed ramp, bolt face, etc.

It's much more practical to get a 325 WSM.

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It was during one of those periods of unavailability that I was making a decision to build a rifle in 8mm, faster than 8x57.

As I remember, the 325 had not yet been introduced or was just out. I didn't want the 8mm Rem Mag. So I finally decided what difference does it make what case is used as long as it delivers the bullet at the speed and accuracy wanted.

Also, another factor, the CIP specs for the 8x68S call for a 1/11" twist rate. I didn't want that. I didn't want to have to buy a reamer, but if it was necessary, because pre-chambered barrels like LW had the 11" twist, I figured I should get something with available brass, and fed with no gunsmith attention to feed rails, magazine, feed ramp, bolt face, etc.

It's much more practical to get a 325 WSM.

KB


As long as you are talking a factory rifle, then yes, proabably. But if you plan on a conversion, the WSM generally takes more effort to ensure positive feeding than the 8x68 or .323 Hollis.

FWIW, I have an 11" twist barrel on my 68 and it shoots Swift 250's just fine.




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I hunted in BC a few years back ('05 or 06?) and the outfitter/guide (a pleasant German fellow- gotta love it when you crack open a beer at 0930 after the morning hunt.....) used an 8x68.

But.........even though he was happy with the cartridge. He took a liking to my Sisk .300 Win and said he was looking to replace the 8mm as ammo was scarce. I do not remember what he was looking to replace it with, prolly a 375 H&H.




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FWIW, I have an 11" twist barrel on my 68 and it shoots Swift 250's just fine.


Did you mean to type 220 gr Swifts? I'm expecting them to work great in my 10" twist barrel.

I'm also interested in the 220 gr Sierras. I hope they shoot well in my rifle.

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Stop this nonsense. Roll Eyes

However, a 35x68 Improved would be a very, very interesting rifle! dancing

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Well, as I've heard, said by oil executives, re oil extraction from Alaska's north slope, pratically any problem can be solved by throwing enough money at it.

Despite several setbacks, I could complete several projects for the price of one Echols Legend.

KB


and for the time I've waited[and still waiting] for smiths to complete late and/or substandard work, I could have safely had several top notch E-Legends finished & delivered.

However if one prefers to risk suffering the aggravation of fools thieves and liars, in order to save money and/or have more rifles, a person is well within their rights to do so.
 
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I've had some trying experiences with gunsmiths, but nothing quite that bad, at least not in the last 30 years. I try to be careful in selecting who I do business with, but still make some minor mistakes, nothing serious.

It's a balancing act. If a guy wants something custom, semi-custom or just upgrading, he has to take some chances with the gunsmith of choice. My selections are carefully cultivated, mostly starting with something simple to see how that turns out. The times Ive made big mistakes is when I just jumped in there with a big project, and got dissappointed.

It's either take some chances, or deal with factory rifles exclusively, and even that's chancy.

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FWIW, I have an 11" twist barrel on my 68 and it shoots Swift 250's just fine.


Did you mean to type 220 gr Swifts? I'm expecting them to work great in my 10" twist barrel.

I'm also interested in the 220 gr Sierras. I hope they shoot well in my rifle.

KB


I meant 250 Woodleighs which are a tad longer than the Swift 220's. Both of which shoot fine in my rifle.




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Out of curiosity, what is a typical weight for a rifle in this caliber and what does recoil compare with? I am guessing similar to a 300 win mag?
 
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Mine goes between 8 and 8.5 lbs depending on the scope & ring setup.




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and recoil?
 
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Recoil, for me, is ok. Though I know folks that wouldn't touch it. Then again I know folks who think an 8 lb '06 kicks too much. It is subjective and highly dependent on the stock too.




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Recoil is more than a 300 Win.Mag. But not unpleasant to shoot at all. I have a ( maybe too) heavy Hem Express Light which is a joy to shoot and one of my most accurate rifles.
 
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There is no practical or real difference between the modern 300 and the 8x68S ( I shoot both) and I believe that is why the 8x68S has never taken on in the USA and is practically a proprietary cartridge elsewhere.

The reality is simple, with the expense and relative availability of components between the two as well as the availability of factory guns in terms of manufacturers chambering for it the 300's win hands down.

Whilst the 8x68 looks and sounds sexy and it's little sister the 6.5x68 even sexier ( just shy in looks to the 300 H&H) looks alone is not enough to warrent manufacturers to suddenly start mass producing this cartridge.


In fact i tell you and i am from europe(germany): There are only few cartridges that are worth to be transfered(exported) to the states beacause there are enough well constructed cartridges available:
5,6x50 R Mag., 6,5x55,6,5x64 Messner Mag., 7x57(R) 7x64 (7x65R),8,5x63(R),8x68S, Reb,9,3x62, 9,3x64, 9,3x74R, .500 Schüler(.500 Jeffery).
I dont make any doubt about the fact that the 8x68S is my favorite and the 9,3x64, too...

The combination of 8x68S and CDP works great but 8x68S and a-Frame is even better...


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Recoil is more than a 300 Win.Mag. But not unpleasant to shoot at all. I have a ( maybe too) heavy Hem Express Light which is a joy to shoot and one of my most accurate rifles.


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