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I purchased a P14 Remingtom 303 at auction and today at the first range test, the shells were fireforming to something else. Seems it's been recut to 303 Epps Improved. Quite a bit of extra powder capacity to the improved case.





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Nothing wrong with that, you did well. tu2


 
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I like it.
I'd be interested to see what it does with some good hand loads over a chronograph.
 
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Man, you've got a neat project that can last a good long while. Smiler The barrel wasn't remarked or anything??


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Thats looks like a Epps to me too B A W. you're in for an adventure now! tu2



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I'll bet it feeds smoother than goose poop too!

Back in the late 60s/early 70s when Elwood was still alive and working hard very day I had him do several P-14s in chamberings such as .22 Epps Improved Zipper for me and they all fed perfectly when delivered from him.
 
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That looks cool and a rifle similar to what I've been dreaming of building. I've been wanting to find the right action for a .30-40 Improved. It was one of PO Ackley's best cartridges to improve, I'll bet your .303 is very similar.
 
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glad to see you again. BEEN A WHILE tu2roger beer



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Examination of the fired cases showed some primers were backing out of the pocket and the case not fireforming correctly. Consulting with a friend today, he suggested expanding the necks to .338 and then resizing down just to the Epps shoulder to give the case more support during fireforming.

I realise 303 Brit headspaces on the rim but this step makes good sense to me. The bolt just firmly closes on a loaded round by this proceedure.


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As you know, a magnum head spaces on the belt but to get the best performance and longest case life, folks reload them to head space on the shoulders. I suspect that will be the case in your case.


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First attempt at forming cases, neck expanded to .338 then resized to just fit the chamber ready for fireforming.



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If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead!

 
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not for nothing.. no reason to form the ghost shoulder on a rimmed round.. headspace is on the rim.. right?


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I have been running 2 303 epps for a while now 1 on a #4 action the other on a P14 never had a problem with fireforming brass in either of them.
 
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Forgot to add in last post Steve Redgwell (think thats it) has written some interesting stuff about and lists loads for the 303 epps amongst other interesting Epps chambereings i beleive you can see some at www.303british.com
 
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