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I've read a lot about how great Mauser actions are for rifles. I've also read about how good they are to convert to other calibers, other than the default 8mm or so. Does anyone have any opinion about buying a rifle from Mitchell Muasers (http://www.mauser.org/) for $299 for historical grade, $499 for collector grade, or $699 for premium grade) and then having it converted to 9.3x62 for hunting? Are they good rifles, would the conversion be feasible or would it be better to just buy a CZ550 American in 9.3x62. Any suggestions, comments or discussions are greatly appreciated. Thanks for any information you might provide in advance. 500grains is on my ignore list for being who he is, which is not the type of person I like, want to be around, hear from or read anything he has to say, period. | ||
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$699.95 for a new CZ550 Medium in 9,3x62...makes it hard to put another thousand+ $$$ on the table for a milsurp mauser custom. Of course, I just bought a CZ in 9,3x62 two weeks ago...so I'm a bit prejudiced.... regards, Rich | |||
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Being in Idaho, I'm curious, where did you buy it, any place local? 500grains is on my ignore list for being who he is, which is not the type of person I like, want to be around, hear from or read anything he has to say, period. | |||
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cs273, You might consider getting a Husqvarna large ring in 9.3x62. These can be had for around $400.Better than the CZ hands down. I have on and just love it. | |||
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If you want a 9.3 X 62 I sure wouldn't start with Mitchel's....there's a lot cheaper way to go since you only salvage the action from the gun. You can find Mauser actions here on the classifieds for $200 and under that will handle that cartridge. I'll have five K Kales back from heat treat soon for sale that will do the job as well for a great price. Other routes are to find a commercial FN action or an interarms or late model Charles Daly. All of these routes get you there for a lot less cash! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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BE VERY CAREFULE ORDERING A MITCHELL MAUSER the M48 is a shorter action than you would want. AN easy way to tell a k98 from a m48 is the HAND GUARD. the k98 top wood does not come behind the rear sight while the m48 (and variants) do yes, the wood can be cut off, so this is merely a guide. cz, 9,3x62, and be done with it jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Mitchells sells mausers ( 48s ) for twice ( or better ) what one can get one for at a gun show. Pricing aside, I wouldn't use one of those for a project. | |||
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I would agree that a mitchel is to expensive for yout purpose. You would do fine with a VZ 24, or similar I paid 100.00 For mine. If you can find a coverted mill surp ,AKA Golden state arms, it will have a good chunk of the work done for you Holes drilled and tapped. Bolt bent coverted saftey. I think a CZ 550 would be very nice. I paid less for mine in oregon, but there are several versions out there. MY 550 American in .243 was 500.00. Another way to go if you Know what your doing goes like this. There is a guy at the local gunshow with a VZ=24 in .243. He wants, I think 275.00. Guys like that are at every gun show. You must look it over well,make sure you have a good strait edge so you can make sure the scope holes are strait, do a through saftey check and make sure the saftey is properly installed. I am thinking of taking my stock VZ 24 to the show and if he will give me 100, I would buy his for the aditional 175.00 and be way ahead with the action workd already done , and i could probably get 50.00 for the .243 barrel. ...tj3006 ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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I only paid $499 for my CZ 550 a year ago. It is heavy but it shoots like a dream. I have no complaints there. Unless you like blowing money I would just get a CZ. Try the CZ Connection. I believe they are in Georgia or Alabama. | |||
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The only two problems I see with the CZ is 1. they are ugly 2. they have a complicated trigger and safety. | |||
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I have both the full stock 20.5 inch version and the 23.6 inch version. I feel the shorter one is better for the iron sights as is, the longer version is better for scope mounting. This is not to say a scope doesn't work with the shorter version, I used a Weaver 2.5 power and Warne rings without complaint, just that the iron sight align easily for me and are fun to do a "time machine" trip to the age of iron sights, Bell and Taylor, to name a couple. | |||
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I have 2 CZs and an old Husqvarna(pre WWII). The old Husky is lighter and just as accurate as the CZ. It has an Espress Rifle stock profile. I paid $225 from Sarco because the stock was dinged. I did replace the trigger with a Dayton- Traistor which was very rreasonable and took 15 min. Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing. | |||
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I replaced my CZ trigger with the AHR unit. Tremendous improvement. | |||
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...don't believe that; just look who your wife married. I used to think the CZ euro-styling was odd looking, until I spent an afternoon at the range shooting one in 416 Rigby. For me they distribute recoil better than a lot of american-styled stocks do. I voted with my pocketbook, I now own three. I mis-posted, you can get a CZ medium FS at Boise Gun Company for $599.95 The 9,3x62 is such a neat all-around cartridge, IMHO it is all you need, out to three hundred yards, for any north american game, including big bears. Rich CZ-boy | |||
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sarcoinc.com tons of mauser actions 48 bucks for stripped fn. drew | |||
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I can vouch that the cz 9.3's are a nice thing and there for all intensive purposes a mauser gun...........if not improved in places, othere with more experience with this issue might chime in. | |||
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3) and they are the roughest out of the box actions out there. The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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If I was looking for a Mauser action for a donor, I'd cruise the gun shows looking for a J.C. Higgins Model 50. Genuine FN mauser action with most of the costly work done. That is, decent bolt handle, generally already drilled and tapped for a scope, scope style safety. As a matter of fact, that's exactly just what I did yesterday. Crised the gun show and at the very last table of a large but boring gun show, they she was. The Higgins Model 50 with a 3x12 Tasco Euro-class scope in detachable mounts. Aking price was $400. I left the show with it in tow for $325. I haven't decided what I'll rebarrel it to, but I'll just have to wait and see. A few shows back I picked up a Husqvarna barreled FN styled action for $200. That one is destined to be a .35 Whelen. Cruise the shows and you should be able to find something decent to play with. Paul B. | |||
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In my opinion you would be a whole lot better off getting a CZ 550 American in 9.3x62. You can get one from Whitaker's Guns over the internet for $529.99. Expect to spend another $25 for the shipping and handling from their end and $25 more from a local FFL to get the rifle and transfer it to you. I have been connected with six CZs in the past five years. A CZ 550 American for me, a CZ 550 American in 9.3x62 for my brother, a CZ 550 Full Stock in 7x57mm for my brother, a CZ 550 Full Stock in 7x57mm for a buddy in El Paso and two CZ 527, one for me and one for my brother. Everyone of us is entitled to our opinion and these are mine. The CZ 550s are the best value for the money in the gun market today. The American style looks similar to the Ruger Model 77. Folks who want to try to find something wrong with the rifles say the safety is backwards and would create confusion. I can assure you that when I take a CZ to the woods I am all too aware of what I am shooting and know how the safety works on them. It's like going into a house or apartment with the light switch set up to be on when other switches are in the off position. In that instance, when I am in such a house, I just push the light switch down, instead of pushing it up. It is really a no brainer. Some also say the CZs cycle rough. In all six rifles I have been associated with, all but the 9.3 were no more rough than a Ruger, Winchester or Remington. Again, that is in my opinion. The 9.3 was not as smooth as the other CZs, but not rough by any stretch of the imagination. To smooth it up, all I did was cycle the bolt about three or four hundred times while watching a television show at home one night and any roughness was gone. The trigger is complicated, but, it is highly adjustable, even by an average shooter, and it has the set trigger feature. All you have to do is cycle the bolt, push the trigger forward until it clicks and you suddenly have a set trigger for that particular shot. My rifle is set at 3#s and the set feature lets off at 12 ounces. The wood is a crap shoot. It is all Turkish Walnut. Some of it should really be on rifles costing thousands of dollars more and some have little or no dicernable grain pattern. Good looking or plain and simple, these things are sickingly accurate. My CZ 550 American in 7x57mm with my 160 grain handloads shoots half-inch three shot groups at 100 yards, my brother's 9.3 shoots at Prvi Partizan stuff from Graf & Sons into 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards and his full stock 7x57mm also shoots 3/4 inch groups with my 160 grain handloads. His buddy's 7x57 Full Stock shoots half inch, three shot groups with my handloads of 162 grain SSTs. Now, keep in mind all of these rifles were bought at different times, from different vendors. That tells me the odds are better than average that the rifles are accurate. My one complaint is they are more heavy than other rifles. My 7x57 weighs in at 9 lbs even with scope, rings, five shots, rifle and sling. I would recommend just buying a CZ and forget the Mitchell Mauser route. Whatever your choice, good luck. Tom Purdom | |||
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