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also posted in the varmint forum... That's right sports fans.. even wildcats.. and all at NO additional charge! Too good to be true??? Is this going to cost a fortune?? NOPE!!! ER Shaw is going to be distributing a Rifle Called the Shaw Mark VII... or Mark 7 for those who don't know Latin..  They are purchasing actions from Savage, that will have the Shaw Name engraved on the receiver...they come with the accu trigger, and will be available in left or right handed actions... List price is supposed to be about $625.00... the Stock will be the Boyd's JRS style, completely finished and available in your choice of Laminate Gray or Nutmeg ( Brown).. If you need your barrel fluted they can do that... Plus the actions are available in chrome moly or Stainless, and your barrel can be the choice of either also! I don't know about your gents, but this is fantastic!!! I could see thinning out the gun cabinet and just invest in a few of these rigs to replace them and then just order replaceable barrels..from Shaw or other companies.. Imagine desiring a rifle chambered in 22.250 AI with a one in 9 twist to it, in Stainless and with a Fluted barrel.. along with a barrel length available from 16 to 26 inches.. YOU pick! and it is all available from the factory turnkey! for $625.00 MLP...or MSR... personally I think this is the best thing to happen for Gunsales in a long long time.. if not ever.. I bet it is time to get an order in now, as I bet they will be back ordered for the next 3 years once this gets rolling.. I'm going to need to get at least 2, one short action and one long action... after that.. I a gun cabinet full of stuff that I need to sell.. Cheers seafire  Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | ||
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Wher can we find out more about these rifles?? | |||
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You can also just call Effie at Savage and they will put together any combination of factory parts in their inventory for like an extra $100, or so. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=HO5mUq0tE8I&feature=user Hit the attached link. That was all I could find on it. | |||
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Yeah, but they'll still have that piss poor ER Shaw barrel on them.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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There is an article I read on them at the supermarket this evening... it was in the August edition of Handloader or Rifle Shooter.. Mike, if you are a gunsmith, they might have "Crap Shaw Barrels".. but you are use to Mercedes Quality being in the biz.. but for a lot of us, the 'crap' Shaw barrels we have actually do the job we intended.. it isn't a benchrest barrel, but it is plenty accurate for both hunting and varminting.....at least for we mediocre shooters.. Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Seems there are lot of members here very happy with the Shaw barrels. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6711043/m/375101598 | |||
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I'd pick the factory Savage barrel over Shaw. The Shaw barrels are the only ones that have ever warped on me when contouring and I mean LIGHTLY contouring. Nope, you litterally couldn't pay me to use one. While I'm not a particular fan of Adams & Bennet barrels, this is one instance where even they would get the nod from me. Steve, I know lots of people who are happy with their nagging, bitching, cheating wives too, lol. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Really all you are getting is a Savage without the best part ie the barrel. | |||
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Mike, that is a great comment! Savage's have always had a great reputation for accuracy, but no one has really said why, as far as I know. If the "Shaw" guns do not shoot as well, we will know the answer! It has to be either the trigger or the barrel. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Shaw makes barrels for several manufacturers. Don't be surprised if factory Savage barrels are in fact by Shaw. | |||
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I wonder if the reason why Savage and Shaw are not more popular is because they do not cost enough. Namibiahunter  . | |||
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Maybe yes maybe no. Shaw did make the AB barrels for Midway at one time. Some of the ABs shoot and some don't.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Interesting discussion. I bought a new Savage in .308 Win thinking that I'd get a useable truck rifle. Thing would not shoot! Stock was so flexible that I thought that might be killing the accuracy so I replaced it. No help. Bedded the stock. No help. Trigger housing was plastic so I replaced it. No help. We bore scoped the barrel at Douglas and found that it came "prerusted." Replaced it with a Douglas tube. That helped ... a lot. My cheap truck rifle turned into an expensive truck rifle. Bought a Manchester Mark X Mauser action on the board here. Was fitted with a Shaw tube in .264 Win Mag. Wasn't concerned with the caliber as I thought I/d replace it and the price was right. Popped the fella in a cheap Fajens synthetic stock. First handload gave me better than 1 MOA. Will now have to burn out that barrel before I can use the action for a larger chambering. Go figure. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I called Chris at ER Shaw... Right now this is a barreled action... Boyd's is making stocks for the rifle in their JRS profile and their Varmint Profile Stocks.. and are being inletted to take any one of the contours available by Shaw those contours will be their # 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 and # 5 contours... They will not come with Savage's Barrel nut installed... They can be ordered with a target crown or an 11 degree crown at no charge.. These rifles are each hand assembled..the lugs and everything is trued before assembly.. they are negotiating with a synthetic stock manufacturer that will have inletted synthetic stocks for each of the barrel contours available but that is still in negotiations.. right now turn around is 4 to 6 months.. sky is the limit on what is available here.. they indicated the gunrags screwed the info up in their articles on it already... so as an example.. I proposed the following for a cost quote.. Stainless action, right handed stainless barrel.. 26 inches 11 degree target crown #5 bull barrel accutrigger is included here.. Chambered in any available 20, 22, 24 centerfire caliber .. with availability of 1 in 14, 12 or 9 twist.. Without a Stock.. just a barreled action.. Cost: $595.00 with $24.00 shipping to anywhere in the lower 48... I can get an inletted Boyds stock in Grey or Brown for this rig.. say in their varmint profile.. about $100.00 + shipping on an unfinished stock.. about $180.00 finished and ready to go.. the JRS profile finished is about $150.00 their catalog web address: http://www.ershawbarrels.com/er_shaw_new_heritage.pdf Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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put me down for a 21" 25 souper. | |||
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Savage makes their own barrels. Here's the production line process: http://www.savageshooters.com/index.php?articleview=Tou...the%20Savage%20Plant Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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excuse me if this is a silly question. But how will the barrel be held on with out a nut? | |||
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They will be threaded and screwed into the reciever with no HEADSPACE nut. The nut savage uses is for fast production headspaceing. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Seems to me that the biggest advantage this might have over calling Savage and having one assembled from factory components as mentioned above, is the huge number of chamberings offered by Shaw. I just went and looked through Savage's website and it was pretty much just standard chambering. No metric rounds, not even a .264 or .338 offered. I've got two of the boyds stocks on hand one finished and one I'm finishing myself. They seem to be ok for the money, but when my mauser returns from the gunsmith, I think I'll be upgrading the stock. | |||
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You were looking in the wrong spot. A quick look and I found these in a .338 and 6.5 6.5X55 260 Remington 6.5-06 6.5 Remington Magnum 264 Winchester Magnum .338-06 .338 Wichester Magnum This is not an endorsment!  Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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We are talking about Savage Arms right? After looking through the website again I still don't see any 6.5s or 338-06, but I did find one or two 338WMs What models? Links would be appreciated too. | |||
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Leopard: look at the link for ER Shaw in one of my above posts, it is in red.. one can order a 338/06... these rifles are being hand assembled and sold by ER Shaw, not Savage... they are getting the Actions, but are not putting on Savage's Barrel Nut... each rifle is available in any caliber that Shaw will chamber barrels in.. which include the 338/06... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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 from what has been said you still will have to screw in the barrel to the right depth and tha cinch the nut.You still need something to hold the action and a nut wrench.  When I look at what it has cost me to buy Mod. 200 Stevens , replace the barrels with Shaw barrels, rework or change the triggers, perhaps sell the Savage barrels that have been replaced I'm not sure there is a net financial gain going with the Savage-Shaw co-op barreled action. Maybe my thinking cap is a little asqued????  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Here I was hoping Shaw would retain the Savage barrel nut so they could use their existing stock of barrels and market their rifles as DIY barrel-swappers. That would probably cost less and grab more attention from the buying public. Oh well. ________  "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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Absolutely not true !! Savage makes their own barrels, I've been there and have seen it. It's a true art to make barrels like they do. Elite Archery and High Country dealer. | |||
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Roger for those of us that are a little mechanically inclined, I can see where your route with your Stevens are a better road.. but for a guy that isn't and can get a rifle chambered in about whatever he wants,, it definitely will fill a market niche.. Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Hey thats great except they will probably use their barrels on them!! guess I'll pass.  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Hey Seafire, I'm a bit surprised you've not gotten into the Home-Barrel-Swapping. Looks like an ideal situation for someone who enjoys Testing many, m-a-n-y different cartridges. A guy with three of the 200Stevens or 110Savages, each with a different Bolt Face, and a rack of Barrels could sure have a Blast. | |||
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 I am  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Ken Waters was pretty picky about accuracy and he used a number of Shaw barrels. I've never used one because they would never answer the phone. Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing. | |||
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Didn't Shaw recently upgrade their manufacturing equipment in the past few years?? I though I recalled hearing how they had made MAJOR equipment changes to make far better barrels and much faster than in the past?? If so,..we might be suprised  I never thought I would say that Only time and real world range results will tell the true tale.Difficulty is inevitable Misery is optional | |||
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Well my AR15 has a Shaw barrel and it shoots just fine. I just built a rifle on a Whaffen Frankonia Mauser action with a Shaw barrel in .257 AI and am getting 3 shot 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards just fire forming brass. That's good enough accuracy for me. I think their down fall is the ugly Savage action and those clunky Boyds stocks. I will just keep having them re barrel actions for me and get my stocks from Richards Micro fit. However for those who are not worried about looks I think it will suit them well. Don Nelson Sw. PA. | |||
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 Second time out with the Stevens 200 action Shaw 7.62x41 barrel, still fire forming. 168gr fmj BT -Golden West bullet ( not usually accurate) 2100 fps. 1", 8 shot groups at 50 yds. Hit he steel pig at 200 yds, every time in the shoulder. This is a light weight 24" hunting class barrel. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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John Barsness has tested one of these new E.R./Savage rifles and reported some excellent groups over on 24hr campfire. I think the one he tried was a 6.5-06 if I remember correctly. He said an up coming artical would appear in one of those rags he writes for soon. Terry PS. I repeat, this is not an endorsment! -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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