the 140gn bullet can be of any type of construction of choice..ie; regular cupcore,NP,AB,Aframe,Northfork,or full Monometal.

do 160gn and 175gn bullets really offer any advantage in those capacity cartridges?

In my opinion a 140 is plenty. My wife uses a 7x57 for EVERYTHING. We use the 140accubond. It has never failed her from small Texas Deer to Oryx and Elk.

The lower velocity of a 160-175 cup-n-core in a medium cpacity case like that may be kinder to the meat. I load 160 Hornady round nose bullets in my 6.5 x 57 and it's good for as far as I'm likely to shoot a meat deer.

But I'd still be fearless if limited to almost anything from 120 to the 140s.

I have a Savage Sierra carbine in 7mm-08 and use Swift A-Frames in 140 grains. While it wouldn't be my choice, my son has got two elk in the last five years with that rig.

140 is plenty -- or 139s from hornady ...

kills hogs, deer, varmits, and paper deaddead

I dunno...been stocking up on Nosler 160's, Woodleigh 160's, Wincheter 175;s and the ole school Nosler 175's for sometime. I bought a Chilean 98 7x57 and have not killed a moose, bear or caribou yet. Should be able to test one of the bullet weights on caribou soon. I like heavyweights for satisfaction of hunt.

That's what I use.

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Originally posted by Trax:

do 160gn and 175gn bullets really offer any advantage in those capacity cartridges?

I'd say not. Now if the rifles had adequate length to the magazines and throats to permit the bullets to be seated out of the powder room I think there would be a fair advantage to be had. roger

From MidwayUSA customer feedback concerning 6.5mm A-Frame 140gn:

" Shoots well and hits hard in the 6.5X55. I used four 140 grain bullets: two Partitions and two A-Frames on a single moose. The bullets all penetrated broadside on lung shots. The shots were none of them simple rib-lung-rib shots; all involved muscle of the leg/shoulder area, but none of the adjacent bones. I did not recover either A-Frame as they did not make it to the hide as did the Partitions (which we recovered while skinning.) The A-Frames lodged in the far side leg muscles. Any of the four bullets would have been lethal as all did sufficient internal damage in the lungs. Partitions probably penetrated farther due to some shedding of the nose. The A-Frames appeared not to have done that at all so probably retained a broader frontal area. "

minus elk, and that sized... you don't even need as large as 140 grainers...so they are more than enough...

A 140 gr AB went in and out of this guy at 150 yards. I would have no issue using it on elk if required.

I have used conventional 140 and 175 Sierra SptBt, Hornady 154 Spt Interlock and bonded 160 and 175 Woodleigh PPSN projectiles in my 7x57.

The only advantage the Woodleigh 160 and 175's offer is better penetration on animals larger than elk size game.

In my experience the Sierra 175 is a good compromise projectile where penetration and expansion are required.

I used a 139gr Hornady in my 7mm SAUM this year to kill a nice 9 point whitetail buck it did a fantastic job. I have also used the 140's in my 6.5X55 to great satisfaction, i like the 129gr Hornady in the Swede....

i use the hornady 139 interlock in both the standard and my ackley chambered rifles.
if pushed at 27-2850 fps muzzle velocity they will penetrate.
i have shot through both shoulders of several cow elk, a bull elk once, several deer [from different angles], and a few coyotes over the years.
it's what i use,have confidence in, and ain't changin.

140 is what I use in my 7-08

140gr accubond from the wife's 7x57. One dead Oryx at just over 250yds. Broke the onside shoulder destroyed the heart and just under the skin on the other side. Dropped where it stood. She uses the same thing for elk.

A few results from a 140 grain Nosler Partition running a slow 2558 fps in my 7mm-08.

I use 140 grain bullets in my 6.5x55. If I wanted to hunt elk with it I might bump up to a heavier bullet, but I'd probably just use a premium 140 grainer.

I've yet to recover a 140gr bullet from anything I've shot with my 7mm08. I ran 139gr Hornady BTSP for years and I changed over to 140gr Woodleighs just because I had some.

Same results with both, in and out, dead animal..

I don't think there's a lot to be gained by running the heavier projectiles but there's not a lot to lose either if you go that way.

I use the 140 TSXs in my 7-08for deer and they all pass right through. 140 is plenty

Hi folks..respectfully in MHO, in all the years + years of hunting/reloadin' done...all the different advices, arguments, proposals, viewpoints, campfire-fights, etc etc regarding best bullets, best calibers, etc, never ceases to amaze...Obviously each cal & each bullet-make & each bullet-weight does have it's own niche/application where it may perform better, ie a heavier bullet may penetrate better, or, a certain calibr may suit a set of circ's better...BUT,

ULTIMATELY : = SHOTPLACEMENT..SHOTPLACEMENT...that, is the vital/important factor..IMHO (meaning the bullet MUST destoy the vitals..if the hart, &/or the lungs, or the brain is destoyed, the quarry MUST fall !!!!...if they are not, the quarry will run..& run..& run..)

Classic xmple, if Bell could kill 1000+ elephants in Africa with a .275rigby (175gn?)(7x57?), it still doesn't, & will never, make the 7mm a suitable elephant-rifle ?..or the 175gn the BEST bullet-weight ?...indeed it shows the following as true, & by implication..& IMHO..
1.that Bell was perfectly able to correctly place that relative small bullet in the elephant's brain with monotenous precision, & repeatedly so..
2.that he was WELLVERSED/KNEW the anatomy of his quarry extremely well..
3.that he KNEW his huntingtools extremely well..
4.that he was exteremely fit, & able, to hunt/shoot in that manner, with those tools, under those specific circumstances..without
any fear or favour..
5.that he probly didn't deem it necesary/needed another bullet/bigger/more suitable cal,because of his ACCURATE SHOTPLACEMENT..
6.that his succsess,& LIFE, depended WHOLLY on his.. accurate shotplacement..
7.that he must've practiced properly, & well, before he ventured to elephant country..
and so one can go on...

One can rest assure,the quarry/buck will not be able to tell or feel the difference between a 7.08, .280, & 7mm RM, or between a .223, 222.50 & .204, or between a .270, .30-06, & .338 ?...the MILLI-SECOND that vitals are destroyed..IT MUST FALL/DIE..no if's, or but's..

It does however not mean that ANY animal can/may be hunted with just ANY cal/bullet...there are certain limits where-in certain cal's/bullets will be reasonably more suitable & better applicable, ie, .458Mag for buff/elephant, or 25.06/222.50 for pr-dogs... In certain circ's a monometal bullet will be more suitable than an ord jacketed bullet...in certain circ's a heavier bullet may be more suitable than a lighter one...horses for courses..but the BIG principle remains : ultimately, SHOTPLACEMENT kills !!
& the hunter & his tools better be able/prepared to execute this principle..or else, loose the animal, the ego, a w a ALOT OF $$$$ !!!...money for nothing..ziltz for free..
So,no matter if u use a 130gn Bonded, or 140gn PSP, or 150gn FN, or 175gn monomatal..if yo bullet has the balance/construction/penetration to TAKE OUT THE VITALS in a straight line...ANIMAL DEAD...if not, u will feel much lighter in yo purse..AND, yo animal will die a horrible death probably..& then blame will set in for rather not spending some xtra $$ on a better constructed bullet, for xample..

Remember the quote : "Guns don't kill..people do" ?...well, if it can be interpreted in applicable hunters language..IMHO..

"Rifles/bullets don't kill..SHOTPLACEMENT does..or not!!"

Hunt well..shoot straight
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On a previous thread with some Europeans about moose with the 6.5x55.Swedich rules require 155-160 gr.I asked if the 140 premium performs as well as the 155 standard and they said yes. Of course you can get a 155 premium like the Lapua Mega and do even better !!
I used my 6.5x55 with standard 140 gr on white tail for 25 years but none of the shots required anything special. Today ? I'd use 140 Barnes or NP anyway.

I've pretty much settled on 140-grain Noslers of one or another persuasion for the 7mm magnum. The point-blank range is close to optimum and there's plenty of energy left within that range. My 6mm-284 has about the same point-blank range with 85-grain bullets but more wind drift. I have some 175-grain loads but don't get them out much; the 140-grain bullets are enough from antelope to elk.

Boxhead, that is a very handsome rifle you have there. How about some details?

I had a Winchester model 70 compact in 7mm-08. I did load some hornaday 175 grain bullets for it. I got 2485 fps from a 20 inch barrel. I actually never used them on anything. I sold that rifle (regret that), but I have a new featherweight in 7mm-08, and I should try that with the same load. Round nose would probably expand better.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Boxhead, that is a very handsome rifle you have there. How about some details?

+1 I bet is not cheap... give us the low down.

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Posted 01 February 2012 00:26 Hide Post
140 is what I use in my 7-08

+ 1 Me To.. mostly sierra