I ordered 9.3x64 carts & get 9.3x62!

31 August 2006, 10:17

.366torque

Damn it!!!!!!!!!
Interestingly enough, they are 293gr TUG bullets. The interesting part is RWS claims 2430 fps from a 23.5" barrel. In their defence there is a silver coating on the bullets, possibly a lube of some sort.

That an '06 size case can launch a 293 gr bullet 120 fps slower than a factory H&H with a 300 gr bullet is amazing!!!!!!!!!!

31 August 2006, 10:36

boom stick

just imagine how cool the 366 ruger will be

31 August 2006, 11:41

mouse93

quote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
In their defence there is a silver coating on the bullets, possibly a lube of some sort.

torque - it is a nickel-plated steel jacket on TUG...

31 August 2006, 16:33

mr rigby

That bullet is not made for meathunting,but for stopping, its fine for various hunting. But for the 9,3x64 use Swift 259,300 grain and woodleigh 320 RN Soft /solid. That is a .375 in a standard receiver and it deserves the best bullets you can get.

31 August 2006, 20:47

.366torque

What in the world? Nickel plated steel jacket???
RWS, won't use it if it didn't work. But honestly, it sounds strange indeed.

31 August 2006, 21:38

snowman

The RWS TUG bullet is not nickel plated steel. The jacket is mild steel covered with a soft gliding metal that is likely a tin alloy. They are designed for deep penitration and they work.

31 August 2006, 21:41

snowman

366 If you need 9.3x64 brass or loaded ammo contact Ralf Martini @ Martini & Hagn. He may even have it in stock.

31 August 2006, 21:56

.366torque

Snowman,

Thank you sir! I am resorting to loaded ammo as reloading dies are proving elusive!

31 August 2006, 22:49

Ricochet

Have you tried contacting RCBS? They may have already done it as a custom order. They can make you most anything you want.

31 August 2006, 22:58

.366torque

quote:
Originally posted by Ricochet:
Have you tried contacting RCBS? They may have already done it as a custom order. They can make you most anything you want.

They've got them and won't ship to Canada.

31 August 2006, 23:22

mouse93

quote:
Originally posted by snowman:
The RWS TUG bullet is not nickel plated steel.

...well they (RWS) claim it is

1. Harder and heavier tail core
2. Softer tip core
3. Torpedo tail
4. Tail groove
5. Sharp rim
6. Nickel-plated steel jacket

TUG or UNI

01 September 2006, 00:07

Paolo9,5x73

Why bother with expensive TUG? The Nosler Partition is easier to manufacture and is equal in performance.

.375H&H TUG carries extra 886J at the muzzle (+520J @ 100m), and 1590J more with VM bullet(+1158J @ 100m).

With high $$$ and difficulty in finding quality Euro ammo in NA it makes little sense for an American to go with the .366.

02 September 2006, 00:43

loud-n-boomer

.366 Torque:

If there is not a restriction on shipping dies to Canada, I would be willing to pick up a set for you, and ship them. PM me if you are interested, and I will see what I can track down for you in the way of dies.

Dave

02 September 2006, 00:53

Bent Fossdal

quote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
just imagine how cool the 366 ruger will be

Boom, you must be the wildest cat there ever was!!!!!

02 September 2006, 01:13

boom stick

bent...

366 torque is going to make one as soon as brass is out. i would prefer a 358 as the 366 is too close to the 375. although i secretly lust for a 411

re. the wildest cat...yeah i have a disease

but its better than drugs, porn or alcohol... or is it

02 September 2006, 01:21

mr rigby

boomstick, all of those lusts can be combined with a video camera, but not all of that will ones missus appreciate,

02 September 2006, 01:22

interboat

quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
With high $$$ and difficulty in finding quality Euro ammo in NA it makes little sense for an American to go with the .366.

Paolo, I don't know who you've been talking to, but everything you need for 9.3x62 AND 9.3x64 is readily available, including properly headstamped cases for the 64 from Huntington and Natchez to mention a couple.

02 September 2006, 01:31

Fjold

quote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
although i secretly lust for a 411

I not so secretly lust for a 423.

Frank

"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953

NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite

02 September 2006, 02:06

.366torque

quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
With high $$$ and difficulty in finding quality Euro ammo in NA it makes little sense for an American to go with the .366.

What does sensibility have to do with cart desire? The cart makes sense and I want it! Looking for brass and dies is a small price to pay.

02 September 2006, 02:10

.366torque

I have ordered dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Martini & Hagn came through!!

Many thanks to snowman!!!!!!!
And thanks to loud-n-boomer for the offer from
the U.S.A.!!!!!!!

02 September 2006, 03:13

snowman

Mouse I didn't make my comment very clear. Nickel is quite a hard metal and would be very hard on the rifling if the outer coating on the bullet jacket was indeed solid nickel. The 293 gr 9.3 calibre RWS "TUG" bullets I have in stock have a steel jacket with a relatively soft gliding metal covering the steel. This outer metal could be a tin or zinc alloy. It can be scratched quite easily with a sharp object.The scratch is similar to one made on any other type of bullet with a copper alloy jacket. From the information you have provided it certainly appears they do put a nickel "flash" on the steel jacket. This would likely protect the steel jacket from rust. Norma used to use steel jackets as well. I believe they were called "tri-clad". A steel jacket with a protective layer of gliding metal on the inside and the outside. Thanks for sharing that information.

03 September 2006, 14:25

lb404

quote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
Snowman,

Thank you sir! I am resorting to loaded ammo as reloading dies are proving elusive!

There are some reloading dies and brass for sale now on the AR Classified...

06 September 2006, 16:08

darwinmauser

quote:
Originally posted by snowman:
Mouse I didn't make my comment very clear. Nickel is quite a hard metal and would be very hard on the rifling if the outer coating on the bullet jacket was indeed solid nickel. The 293 gr 9.3 calibre RWS "TUG" bullets I have in stock have a steel jacket with a relatively soft gliding metal covering the steel. This outer metal could be a tin or zinc alloy. It can be scratched quite easily with a sharp object.The scratch is similar to one made on any other type of bullet with a copper alloy jacket. From the information you have provided it certainly appears they do put a nickel "flash" on the steel jacket. This would likely protect the steel jacket from rust. Norma used to use steel jackets as well. I believe they were called "tri-clad". A steel jacket with a protective layer of gliding metal on the inside and the outside. Thanks for sharing that information.

Gilding metal on steel jacketed projectiles used to be cupronickel, the same metal as most silver colored coins are made of.

07 September 2006, 08:34

.366torque

quote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
366 torque is going to make one as soon as
brass is out.

As much as I want that, I mean I really, really want it!
Lawndart has changed my mind with the 9.3x70 Expert!!
Anything else is like taking a sandwich to a banquet!