Thinking of loading Nosler Partition for my brothers 760 he will be using for moose this fall. My bros 7600 I will be using shoots a milk jug dead center first shot with the Hornady Interlocks and I have about twenty left. A hundred and forty grain Interlock moving at 3000 fps will certainly destroy lungs.

No I am going to load the 140 gr Accubond for my brothers 270 Winchester. Cheap Lee 2 Set value dies. 4831 probably 58 grains.

When I was in Alaska, a neighbor had a 25-06 for his kids when the 25-06 was still a wildcat. He loaded Nosler Partitions and they worked well on moose and caribou.

I think there is enough empirical evidence out there to reach your own conclusion regarding the NP and its on-game performance including moose. Is there a real question there or should your post have been entitled, "My brother is going to load NPs this fall in his X. rifle."?

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My bros 7600 I will be using shoots a milk jug dead center first shot with the Hornady Interlocks and I have about twenty left.

Only twenty milk jugs left? Slow down on shooting them, you don't want to run out.

The Nosler partition was created after other bullets failed on moose.

Matthew

For moose I would opt foro the Nosler 160 gr. partition.I would have much better penetration and moose are thick...Moose are not hard to kill they just take a long time to die..

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
For moose I would opt foro the Nosler 160 gr. partition.I would have much better penetration and moose are thick...Moose are not hard to kill they just take a long time to die..

You forgot to mention they like to die in knee deep or deeper water!

Federal Premium Vital-Shock ammo 150 grain Nosler Partition. This is about as good as it gets, for the big stuff, in 270 Win factory load offerings. A handload that reproduces this factory load would be nice. Federal makes 160 grain partition component bullets. But I am not aware of a 160 grain partition factory load. I like Ray’s advice on the 160’s. The newer superbullets in lower weights, might work just as well, but heavy partitions have proved themselves for several decades.

I don't like to load 160's in the 270 Winchester because it slows the caliber down to 30-06 180 speeds.

The 270 Winchester is capable of breaking the 3050 fps with 140 Accubonds. Easily good to 300 yards which is perfect for my fall moose hunt as there is moose all around our farm. Shots will probably be in the 50 yard range. Moose like canola fields.

With both my brothers 760 and my 7600, if we shoot at the same moose should have 4 holes in its lungs with those pump actions. I talked to Ted Gaillard and he can rebarrel a 760 to 338-06. That is another option, 338-06. I can afford that or 30-06.

Maybe I should rebarrel to 35 Whelen!!

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Originally posted by ar corey:
I don't like to load 160's in the 270 Winchester because it slows the caliber down to 30-06 180 speeds.

The 270 Winchester is capable of breaking the 3050 fps with 140 Accubonds. Easily good to 300 yards which is perfect for my fall moose hunt as there is moose all around our farm. Shots will probably be in the 50 yard range. Moose like canola fields.

With both my brothers 760 and my 7600, if we shoot at the same moose should have 4 holes in its lungs with those pump actions. I talked to Ted Gaillard and he can rebarrel a 760 to 338-06. That is another option, 338-06. I can afford that or 30-06.

When it comes to moose, penetration is more valuable than velocity. I wouldn't get hung up on velocity. Your 270 with a 160 grain bullet will go plenty fast enough, even at, gasp, 30-06 180 grain speeds, to kill any moose in Alaska or Canada, even at 300 yards. Ray's advice on the 160 is spot on.

If you just want a bigger gun then by all means rebarrel to 338/06 or 35 Whelen. Both great rounds, but both slower than the 30-06/180.

What's wrong with 06 and 180 speeds? If you shooting moose at 50 yds or less, why do you care how accurate and hard hitting a round is at 300 yds.

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Originally posted by tysue:
What's wrong with 06 and 180 speeds? If you shooting moose at 50 yds or less, why do you care how accurate and hard hitting a round is at 300 yds.

This ^^^^^

It's not like you need MOA accuracy even out to 300 yards to hit a moose! And the 160 NP at 2700 fps, when 2.5 inches high at 100 yards, is only about 2 inches low at 300.

And as others have said, why would you go for more velocity and a lighter bullet and risk insufficient penetration when you can use the excellent NP 160 that will ensure deep penetration?

I don't get it.

jeezum crow. at 50 yards I'm not particularly interested in the velocity stakes. In fact, I don't need it at all. I want penetration. If I was shooting a Partition I'd be happy with an impact velocity of 2400 fps giving the NP plenty of opportunity to set up and reach bullwinkle's vitals from any reasonable angle. at that distance I would be equally happy with a cnc 220 in an 06. I'd be even happier to chuck a 35 Whelen at it fwiw.

Okay, okay. I'll load the 160 Partition for the 270 Winchester. 2800fps would be nice.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
I think there is enough empirical evidence out there to reach your own conclusion regarding the NP and its on-game performance including moose. Is there a real question there or should your post have been entitled, "My brother is going to load NPs this fall in his X. rifle."?

You are right. I should have titled" Nosler Partition in 270 Winchester for moose? "

Both of my Montana Shiras bulls were one shot kills with 180 grain Partitions from my .30 Gibbs. The bullets worked great.

I have shot 3 Alaskan moose. Two with 250 Nosler partitions and one with 210 Nosler partitions in a 340 Weatherby. One at over 600 yds across the turn and one at probably 50 yds.
The one at 50 yds was a whopper. Probably +1500 lbs.
Sort of what Mr. Corey describes.
Shot him perfect on the lower shoulder with a 250 NP out of the 340 and he just stood there. I thought there was no way I missed that varmint the size of a van. I waited a few seconds and chambered another round and pulled the rifle to my shoulder. All the sudden he began to sway back and forth like a tree in the wind.Then collapsed.
The bullet struck right where I aimed. I could about put my fist through the exit hole on his far side.
I don't think he ever moved forward or backward or even flinched. It was really weird...

ike to load 160's in the 270 Winchester because it slows the caliber down to 30-06 180 speeds.

The 270 Winchester is capable of breaking the 3050 fps with 140 Accubonds. Easily good to 300 yards which is perfect for my fall moose hunt as there is moose all around our farm. Shots will probably be in the 50 yard range. Moose like canola fields.

With both my brothers 760 and my 7600, if we shoot at the same moose should have 4 holes in its lungs with those pump actions. I talked to Ted Gaillard and he can rebarrel a 760 to 338-06. That is another option, 338-06. I can afford that or 30-06.[/QUOTE]

210-250gn Noslers sound appropriate and reasonable.

160gn Noslers sound like unethical under-kill, at least on Moose-size game.

160 Partitions from the 270 Winchester and quick follow up shots will give me the edge at fifty yards.

I used Hodgdon’s max 160 grain partition/H4831 data to put together my 7mm-06 load, only I substituted a 160 grain Speer grand slam. Based on this experience, and looking at Noslers data, H4831 won’t get you very close to 2800fps. However, several slower powders will get you there. Look up the 160 partition 270 Win data on Hodgdon’s website. Don’t push the pressure in those slide actions. The 270 is already a magnum pressure cartridge.

I killed a young bull in Alberta about 10 yeas ago with my 270 .. shooting 150 gr. Nosler Partition ... at about 3000 fps ..

A open shot across the cut wheat field , about 100 or so yards .. dropped like he was pole axed .. instantly !!

Hats off to those Partitions !!!

I really believe we are over thinking this moose bullet thing !

The answer in short is: Off course a Nosler partition will do ! Why on earth would it not.... in fact Moose will go down with anything loaded commercially in just about any medium caliber today ! That has been my experience at least living in a community where everyone and their dog goes after Moose every year for their annual meat needs.

For 19 years now I have lived the annual Moose getting thing and have come to the conclusion you can just about shoot them with any caliber and any bullet as long as you hit them where it counts.

As to them standing in water or shooting them in water ? not so much ! have encountered them swimming rivers ( hunting them while swimming is illegal ) and around water not because they like the water per but because there is so much of it around here. Big rivers, lots and lots of lakes. The whole damn place is a sponge and it rains.

Both from personal use and from what I've read for 4 decades, I'd say there are fewer questions about the efficacy of Nosler Partitions than any other bullet. The only REAL question is, which one? And if shots will be under 300 yards, then by all means use the heavier for caliber bullets. Either the 150 or 160 in the .270 will be excellent.

Either the 150 or 160 Partition from a .270 will work just fine on moose. I’d use whichever shoots better in your rifle.

Loading 54.5gr of H4831SC in the 270 Winchester with the 160 Partition will net 2777fps.

Can push the 150 Partitions to 2905fps.

Okay...maybe a bit cynical. Why on earth would you even start this topic?

Anyone with a hint of experience would know the answer to this and never need to broach the subject. So I am guessing you were bored and needed something to do ?

Bullet-weight appropriate to the species being hunted matters, .... at least to the ethically-conscious hunter.

I would hunt moose with a 270 or 30-06 and a 160 and 180 gr. Nosler partition or accubond for that matter..and I have quite a lot..

One of my favorite 30-06 loads is bucket full of 4831 and the 200 gr. Nosler partition or Accubond. I used that 200 gr. bullet to shoot little whitetail and Coues deer, as well as several elk, one moose, and 3 black bear..Also Eland and Kudu and one cape buffalo. It is a killer..

Over time I went to the .338 Win. as my all time favorite for elk and larger animals, for no other reason that I decided it must be better, and it is up to a point.

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Originally posted by ar corey:
Loading 54.5gr of H4831SC in the 270 Winchester with the 160 Partition will net 2777fps.

I didn’t think to look at Nosler’s data. Hodgdon’s data is over 100 FPS slower. I would definitely work up to that max Nosler load in a slide action. Good idea for any gun, really, working at magnum pressure.

I am going to go with the Nosler Partition 150gr@2905 in the 270 which would be 65,000psi which my Dad's 7600 has shot for decades.

Look at the clover leaf in this April 2018 Handloader

I think they are making Partitions more consistently accurate these days. The machining processes have improved at Nosler just like every other bullet maker these days and the Partition is the work of perfection till lead gets banned. Can't get much better than completely destroying lung and the capability to take out a shoulder if the caliber is big enough. I won't be shooting at the front shoulder with anything less than a 300 Winchester Magnum.

I just read the article and Terry Wieland's best group ever shot was a 270 Weatherby 150 grain Partition into a group of 0.248"

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Originally posted by mart:

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Originally posted by ar corey:
I don't like to load 160's in the 270 Winchester because it slows the caliber down to 30-06 180 speeds.

The 270 Winchester is capable of breaking the 3050 fps with 140 Accubonds. Easily good to 300 yards which is perfect for my fall moose hunt as there is moose all around our farm. Shots will probably be in the 50 yard range. Moose like canola fields.

With both my brothers 760 and my 7600, if we shoot at the same moose should have 4 holes in its lungs with those pump actions. I talked to Ted Gaillard and he can rebarrel a 760 to 338-06. That is another option, 338-06. I can afford that or 30-06.

When it comes to moose, penetration is more valuable than velocity. I wouldn't get hung up on velocity. Your 270 with a 160 grain bullet will go plenty fast enough, even at, gasp, 30-06 180 grain speeds, to kill any moose in Alaska or Canada, even at 300 yards. Ray's advice on the 160 is spot on.

If you just want a bigger gun then by all means rebarrel to 338/06 or 35 Whelen. Both great rounds, but both slower than the 30-06/180.

That's not true. Barnes is listing RL 15 with the 35 Whelen 200 grains at 2800fps.

The modern agreement with the 30-06 and 180 grain loads is 2700. Barnes is loading a 20 grain heavier bullet at 100fps quicker. The 35 Whelen should be more popular as a 300 yard rifle. It blows big holes in things and kills with about 25#'s worth of recoil. And can be made from 30-06 brass.

I think with the Barnes 200gr TSX, the 35 Whelen is a better round than the 9.3

For hunting any NA big game Partitions are never a bad choice !

I have seen many a moose killed by First Nation hunters with a 30-30 in the NWT. I'm not suggesting that you do it. I'm just sayin'.

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Originally posted by 458Win:
For hunting any NA big game Partitions are never a bad choice !

Exactly.......like I said, this is a non topic. Give me a brake, come on...Nosler Partitions have worked for oh what, 50 years?! Used in all calibers and different weights.....yada, yada.

When I see topics like this it just makes me snort and think that there are people who need to get a life. If you have any real life experience you should not need to ask that question.

AR Corey, how about some real interesting topics? Cause this ain't one of them.