I've about had it with crappy Limbsaver recoil pads. I had several ruin the cloth flooring in my fire safe by melting into a gooey mess. I wrote limbsaver and they told me they made a large batch that was improperly cooked and resulted in the breakdown of the material into a gooey substance at plain room temp. They sent me replacements free of charge, but offered nothing to fix the ruined cloth in my safe. They told me the problem was fixed on the newer pads.

WRONG!!! I laid a XCR stock on the back seat of my brand new truck only to have a mess when I went to take the rifle out of the truck. It was stuck to my brand new seat and now I have what looks like a big tar stain on my rear seat.

Just thoroughly ruffles my feathers!

Thought some of you might could use the warning. Be careful with these crap pads.


Have a Good One,

Reloader

have had one on my No. 1 .45/70 for the past three years. It still looks and works OK......

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I love Limbsaver pads and haven't had any problem with them turning "gooey." That said, if I had the problems you have had I'd be down on Limbsavers too.

John

thats odd i've never had a problem with the limbsaver on my 270 win.

I had one on my 458 Lott get gooey. Replaced it with a new one (was getting ready for a buff hunt and couldn't take the time to dink around with something else). The replacement has been fine, so far (2 years).

i have em on really big guns... havent had them melt or tear (like the rippease)

I've had the "grind to fit" ones get gooey on me.

I know this sounds ridiculous but please try it before you scoff. If you coat them with a high quality car wax or furniture polish that really seems to help stabilize them. I don't think the gooeyness is all temperature related. Something chemical is going on as well. The wax seems to stop this reaction.

What TheBigGuy said. I think sometimes a particular solvent or bore cleaner can cause that type of damage if its confined in a tight space with a Limbsaver. I've got two or three sitting on the shelf in my gun room with no change in composition, but its very well ventilated.

My gunsmith advised me against the Limbsaver, he reccomended the Kick-Eez, It works fine and no melting

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Originally posted by ELKMAN2:
My gunsmith advised me against the Limbsaver, he reccomended the Kick-Eez, It works fine and no melting

Your gunsmith needs to try them both in the field.. the RIPeaze will be destoryed in 1 years hunting in the brush

i think they both suck. the kick-eze tear way to easy, even worse than a decelerator pad. i use them if the customer insists but they are made aware that it is their problem when it does. limbsaver? i wont use them any more . have had several goo into a freakin mess. the last t&e gun i got from remington had a limbsaver on it. it was soft and mushy when i got it and i used the gun until i desrtoyed the pad. remington gave me a song and dance explaination of why it happened.

I've got over a dozen firearms with Limbsavers on em, one of em got tacky on me, have used Kick-eez Slick-eez coating on them and solved that issue, and they don't catch clothing when thrown to the shoulder. A friend found that treating them with Armor All works too, probably just as the furniture polish does for TheBigGuy.

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I've got Pachmyer Decelerator pads on all of mine. Love them, no problems. Used them for years.

I have used limbsaver, decelerator and x-coil pads and have not had any problems with any of them.

Any other opinions on the X-coil.

Seems I will have another Mod 70 300 ultra in my possession and was thinking of putting a X-coil on it.

That's an interesting problem. I can't say I own or have ever shot a rifle with a Limbsaver on it, but there clearly is a problem if yours, as well as several others', are melting. I think that may be one of the flaws of the softer recoil pads - decreased life. I wouldn't doubt they soak up recoil better than harder pads (e.g. Decelrator), but I've heard and seen they aren't very durable when it comes to actual use. We've got Decerators on nearly all our guns, and none of them have given us a hint of trouble over the years (some 30+ years old!). Were it my gun, I'd just trash the Limbsaver and slap on a Decelerator, or something of that ilk, and call it a day. It certainly beats ruining the upholstery in your truck or your gun safe.

I have several limbsavers, no problems at all. They are the best I've used on a really hard kicker.

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Originally posted by jstevens:
I have several limbsavers, no problems at all. They are the best I've used on a really hard kicker.

I'm waiting on a reply from LS CEO, I'll let you all know what he has to say about the problem.

When I first contacted LS concerning the melting gooey pads that ruined my safe cloth, they told me they had undercooked a batch of around 10,000 and they were breaking down or melting, yet they had made no effort to do a recall and were just replacing the pads as people complained. They assured me the problem had been corrected on all of the newer pads, but they were indeed wrong. I haven't had any signs of goo on the pad in question and now all of the sudden it's a tacky mess that sticks to everything.

Look's like Decelerators from now on.

Reloader

Well, I have good news. LS CS Manager contacted me and is having one of their purchasing agents contact me direct to pay for the cost to replace the damaged seat in my new truck and the cloth in the bottom of my gun safe.

She told me even though the XCR pad was newer than the pads that turned on me previously, it still had to be from the same batch as that is the only batch they've had any problems with.

They are also sending me a replacement pad for the XCR stock.

Speaks very highly of their CS, I was quite surprised at their offer to recover my truck seat.

We'll see how this goes. I'm sure it will be a pain fooling with the repairs, but it's nice that they've offered to cover the cost.

Ya'll have a good one,

Reloader

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by ELKMAN2:
My gunsmith advised me against the Limbsaver, he reccomended the Kick-Eez, It works fine and no melting

Your gunsmith needs to try them both in the field.. the RIPeaze will be destoryed in 1 years hunting in the brush

I have had it on for 6 months, I am in the middle of deer season and my rifle is in the truck every day, I elk hunted for 2 weeks with in the Big Horns, antelope hunting for a month and am leaving for Colorado in a week elk hunting, it is as good as the first day it was installed. I have shot perhaps 200rounds with the rifle, a T3, 300win and it is a blessing!!

I had one melt on a 458 win, I have two others on remingtons that seem to be doing ok. Haven't had any problems with the decelerators, and they work well on the big kickers.

John

funny, ripease sometimes don't even make it to a sight in... i used to love them, then "snapped" that i was replacing them every other year...

but WHY are we discussing big kicker pads on mediums? my 300win weighs8, with scope, and hard plastic pad... a guy at the range sunday had a leadsled, a recoil shield, 50# of shot, a limbsaver, a huge barrel, and a muzzle brake ....

and a huge scope..

"yeah, these big ole 300 win magnums sure do kick"...

i dropped a 500AR in his hand, and said "i wouldn't notice"...

speaking of which, the ripease on my 376 steyr ia a candidate for a decel.. it just don't kick enough for a 12oz pad


oh, yeah, i count "big kicker" as 70# of recoil and up.. with 100ft-lbs requiring a rifle to weight 9.5 before scope

The more one shoots a really big bore the less apt he will need a pad on a rifle at all.

He probably wouldn't notice a hit to the head with a small bat.

Don't mind the drool and the slurred speech.

I have at least two of them go goo on me. One on a Cooper and one on a Remington LVSF. What a frikkin mess!

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Originally posted by RMiller:
Don't mind the drool and the slurred speech.

whah hunuh?

I still use a Silvers or London guns pads on most of my guns. I know they are hard but they cover with leather nicely and they still do what a recoil pad is intended to do. Also I like the little tit that has to be inletted in the top of the butt with them, it's a nice touch..I also quit using the Limb savers some time ago.

I think I agree with Jack Belk, all a recoil pad does is give the gun a one inch running start at your shoulder!!

Best thing about a recoil pad is the gun won't slip when you stand it up in the corner..

My old 404 had a steel butt plate and it was fine as long as I held it tight on my shoulder otherwise it thumped me pretty bad. I am getting ready to stock a .416 for myself and it will have a steel Neidner type butt plate, as that gives the gun better balance IMO. held right it won't bother me..The only thing about recoil that bothers me in the least is when I get smaked in the cheek.

But,. this is recoil pad generation, and I'm sure my approach on the subject is not the norm. I do wonder how many folks have really tried a big bore rifle with a metal butt, not many is my bet.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
... I think sometimes a particular solvent or bore cleaner can cause that type of damage if its confined in a tight space with a Limbsaver...

Looked at a gun with a Limbsaver just yesterday that had been sitting inside a silicone impregnated gun sock....nice imprint of the sock's weave melted into the #$@% pad!

Specifically I've found degreasers or gun scrubbing solvents will EAT Limbsavers. Just the fumes will make them tacky.

The other thing that's particularly aggressive in attacking and destroying both synthetic stocks and Limbsavers is insect repellent that contains DEET.

I took my beloved RSM Lott out of the safe today in preparation of an upcoming ground squirrel shoot. Last time I shot it was the end of December and all was fine. I wasn't thrilled when I noticed my trusty Limbsaver was "gooey" and sticking to the safes carpeting Must have been one of the bad batches too. I still love the Limbsavers recoil abatement, but I now know how the other posters felt. My decelerator pads just keep on ticking. I don't know what pad I will be putting on my Lott (and Rigby) now.

John

John,

Contact Limbsaver and tell them about your problem. They were very good to me and resolved all issues.

Have a Good One,

Reloader

My gunsmith will put anything you want on your firearm, but he recommends decelerators and against the others for some of the same reasons cited above.