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I recently purchased this old Mauser sporter in 8x57. It is a little ratty condition wise so not a collector's piece. I want to hunt with it and shoot it a bunch. I have owned and loaded 7x57 and 9.3x57s but not a 8mm. I see Woodleighs lists bullets from 196g to 250g. Nosler Partitions are 200g. Hornday's are lighter yet Anyone have some heavy bullet (220g/250g) loads they would care to share or just 8x57 comments/experience in general? | ||
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I've owned several over the years.....most were exceptional shooters as well.....but eventually became rebarreled to smaller calibers. For deer Hornady's 150 spire point worked quite well and zinged across the fields quite smartly. Their 170 RN also is a good deer hunting bullet.....but I suspect the Sierra and Speers are also good but haven't tried them. If you want to hunt larger stuff look at Nosler's accubond 200 grain or their partition in the same weight..... Swift makes a 200 grain A-Frame and a 220 grain A-Frame as well Woodleigh weldcores and Norma Oryx is also available so there's no shortage of great big game bullets for the old 8 X 57. If I was to use the 8 X 57 today, I'd get some 160 TSX and some H-4895 and work up a load. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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VP has it right! I picked up some 160 TTSX and 180gr TSX. Good stuff. I find for normal hunting Sierra 175gr Hunters work great. IMR4064 or 4320 work great. Once you pass 200gr it gets trickier to load for. | |||
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Chrono Date: 6/25/2005 Cartridge: 8x57JS Rifle: Remington Model 700 Classic Barrel Length: 24" Bullet: 220 gr Woodleigh RN Powder: IMR-4350 Powder charge: 51.0 gr Case Make: W-W Primer: WLR C.O.L.: 3.14" Chrono Summary Average Velocity: 2,402 fps Average Energy: 2,819 ft lb High Velocity: 2,428 fps Low Velocity: 2,392 fps Extreme Spread: 36 fps Standard Deviation: 10 fps Cheers! -Bob F. | |||
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Have you determined the bore diameter of your Mauser? Oberndorf sporters were offered with both 318 & 323 barrels right up until end of production. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Good point, Forrest .. perhaps bwana dane will actually test it .. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Go with the 200 NPT - Some of the heavier bullets don't expand well at 8x57 velocities (made for 8mm RM)). ________ Ray | |||
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Appears to be in outstnading condition from this picture. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more pics. ----------------------------------------------------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4 National Rifle Association Life Member | |||
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Hornady makes a great 195 grn Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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FWIW I load my wife's 8x57 with the Remington 185gr Corelokt for practice and the Nosler 200gr Accubond for hunting. With the same load of Varget they essentially hit the same POA/POI from her rifle at reasonable hunting ranges for an iron sighted rifle. | |||
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