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Those of you who shoot 375 H&H and 416 etc. how do you compare the recoil to the 300 RUM with full power loads. I have a 300RUM so I was just wondering how it stacked up recoil wise. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | ||
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I don't have a 300RUM, but I had a 300 Weatherby and I would imagine that your 300RUM kicks as hard or harder than a 300 Weatherby. Having said that, from my experiece the felt recoil of a "big" 300 magnum is sharper than that of a 375H&H. You can kind of roll with the 375H&H's recoil - you don't get it all at once. My wife shoots & hunts with my 375H&H, but I'm almost positive she would develop a flinch w/ a "big" 300 magnum. The 416 is kind of a horse of a differnt color (I have a 416 Rigby). From my experience, you get more recoil than either a 300 or 375 and it is sharper than a 375H&H. You can't roll w/ a 416 like you can w/ a 375H&H. None of them will hurt you and I would think that if you can handle the 300RUM you won't have any problem w/ the felt recoil from a 375H&H and you would be able to handle the recoil of a 416 Remington/Rigby. Hope this helps you! | |||
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MHC_TX Thanks. I wasnt worried about being able to handle them. Just kind of wanted to see how they compared. I've only shot one 375 a pre 64 but the rounds were probably about as old as the gun and I didnt know how they loaded the old ones, wasnt bad at all. The 300 doesnt bother me, I like to shoot it actually. I had a 45-70 and everyone always talks about how they kick so hard, I reloaded for it and I thought it was fun to shoot. It was a good watermelon buster. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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I own two 300ultramags and have owned a 375h&h.The 375 h&h definitely produced more felt recoil.The 375 h&h was a factory synthetic stocked sako and was magnaported.My 300ultramags have fairly heavy contour 26" barrels and mcmillan stocks with decellerators installed and actually produce less felt recoil than my mark V 300wby did.The 300ultramags and the 300wby weighed about the same but the weatherby had a heavier action and lighter barrel which seemed to increase felt recoil.The 375h&h was slightly lighter than the other rifles. | |||
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I would agree that gun weight & stock design have a lot to do w/ felt recoil. My 300 Weatherby was a Remington M 700 "Classic" and it kicked like a mule. I lived in Midland, Texas at the time and there was a metal roof over the shooting bench and it would make that thing ring. If I shot it more than 20 times it would give me a headache & it would literallly knock the snot out of my nose! But it was a flat shootin piece of hardware. They had a steel plate gorilla set up at 500 yards and it was no problem to make it ring. I ended up trading the gun off, as I prefer CRF actions. | |||
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I had a 300RUM in a SSF Sendaro. I honestly didn't think the recoil was all that bad. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Can you comment on the recoil of the 150 gr loadings in the rum at around 3600 fps................your sendenero would roughly weigh the same as my .300 PSS rem 700. | |||
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The recoil of a 375 H&H is going to roll you back further than a RUM but the RUM is going to move you faster. To me they are in about the same ballpark. I did have 2 otherwise identical 300 RUMs one in a wood stock and the other in a Synthetic. The wood stock gun seemed to give me a headache after 15-20rds whereas the synthetic gun doesn't seem to bother me until 40 or 50 rounds (both were Sako M-75's). The 416's are another ballgame and the 458 Lott is in another league. All can be managed, but you have to work at it with the 416's and up.........DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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Well, I had a light 7mag that seemed to love 175gn bullets at full tilt. I honestly think the 7mag kicked harder than my RUM did. I never shot 150gn out of mine 180's was as low as I went. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Thanks Terry | |||
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The worst rifle i have shot recoil wise is my Tikka T3 lite in 300 WM at total weight of 3,5kg with scope shooting 180-200gr bullets at full loads! Got my magnum eyebrow with it! Have shot quite a few bigger cals but my Tikka gets the gold in uncomfortable recoil! regards | |||
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I can't really comment on a .300 RUM versus a .375 H&H, but I can regarding my .338 RUM. The .375 H&H is much more pleasant to shoot in a properly weighted rifle in my opinion. The recoil is not nearly as violent. That being said, some people handle magnum recoil better than others, so the comparison might not hold true for everyone. --->Happiness is nothing but health and a poor memory<---Albert Schweitzer --->All I ever wanted was to be somebody; I guess I should have been more specific<---Lily Tomlin | |||
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okay, i am known as a recoil sponge... i've shot the 300rum in a 12# right immediately after a 300 win (8.75).. both loaded to factory.. the 300 rum WAS and the 300 win was mine.. the 300 is a fringing BRUTALLY fast recoil... wicked thumping amount, wickedly fast... and accounts for most of the scope cuts I see at the range... other than that, an excellent round, but for me, it's snakebit jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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If you find the recoil of a 12 lb 300ultramag that brutal and wicked,I would say that you certainly do not have a high tolerance for recoil.My 300ultramags weigh under 10 lbs scoped and loaded and although the recoil is certainly substancial,I have no problems firing 30 to 40 rounds during load testing wearing only a t-shirt. | |||
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Weight isn't everything. Stock design is just as important. I feel the Sendaro is a well designed stock. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Hey Stubblejumper. Perhaps you should go to my home page, in my signature. I appreciate your opinion even though it happens to be wrong. You missed the point of my post I FIND THE 300 RUM BRUTAL, even though i shoot guns with over 100lb-ft of recoil. Why? because it is blindingly FAST recoil. IIRC, the rum is about 40lb-ft of recoil at 28+FPS. 200lb-ft of energy is NOTHING at 10fps... 100lb-ft of energy will kill most animals in north america, with good shot placement, at 1200 fps... (second example, 22 LR) http://www.weaponsmith.com/images/550-376-458.JPG opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I completely agree. A heavier recoiling rifle like the 375 H&H is much more pleasant to shoot with its slower recoil. --->Happiness is nothing but health and a poor memory<---Albert Schweitzer --->All I ever wanted was to be somebody; I guess I should have been more specific<---Lily Tomlin | |||
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