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I know the 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester, 350 magnum all outshoot the little 35 Remington. But I was amazed when I took my Marlin out to the range that how easy it was to sight in and get very good accuracy with a straight 4x scope. The 200 grain RN bullets barely broke the 2000 fps mark, but the big slugs pushed their way through some big rounds of fir leaving some impressive sized holes on exit. I am going to do more testing and be all tuned up for spring black bear. Free speech has been executed on the altar of political correctness. | ||
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I loaded ammo for a friend years back. He had a pump gun in .35 Remington. He referred to it as a "brush gun".....whether it was or not wasn't important, the fact that he believed it gave him confidence to use in in the northern Minnesota woods and he was quite successful in putting venison in the freezer. Clearly the velocity was completely sufficient for the ranges he hunted and as a matter of fact, higher velocity for his style of hunting might even been counterproductive as it increases recoil and at some point actually can reduce penetration. I don't think the .35 Remington has anything over the .30-30 or .32 Special or even the .303 Savage but certainly wouldn't look down on anyone using one as the track record for a woods cartridge is sound. They also have a reputation as a very accurate cartridge. It's quite rare to see anyone using one today but if you do pay some respect because he has as much chance of putting venison in the freezer as anyone else out there. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I took my very fist big game animal (a cow elk) with a 35 remington. Inside of 150 yards they are devastating...beyond that trajectory begins to be a problem Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I used to have a satin-finished Rem 760 Carbine in 35 Rem....one I wish I never sold. With heavy bullets and moderate velocity, it's all you need for woods hunting. The good ole' Core-Lokt, Speer, and Hornady round nosers do well here...no need for premium bullets. | |||
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The first time I saw one I thought it was a toy ! That of course was a 14 or 141 pump.But there were a bunch of others .The consistant thing was the performance .A long time favorite in the east for whitetails and black bear .Not one of those modern high recoil ,high noise things .But a fine 150 yd cartridge certainly better than any 30-30 .Had theyspent as much time advertising it it would be much more popular. | |||
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With a properly built rifle the old 35 can push a 300 grain gas checked bullet out the barrel at 2200 fps. That's a 30-06 energy level. Did that with a 16" barrel. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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My first hi power was Rem 760 in 35 rem. Hunted Pa for deer and bear. | |||
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I have a Marlin lever in 35. It is at my brother in laws in Wisconsin. I got it because he and his hunting buddy both use one and I wanted to be a team player. It has a Lyman peep sight. I also have a Remington XP-100 in 35 Rem. I have had it for several years but just recently set it up with iron sights and started shooting. Mark | |||
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We shoot a Marlin lever 35 simply because it was my Wife's dad's. She likes to take a touch of blood with it now and then to remember him. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Paul, nice gesture...I do the same with my father's old 30-40 sporterized Krag. | |||
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Sorry, I've gotta call it..... | |||
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Yeah, that one is impossible within our current laws of physics. Anyway, I have a mint Rem 141 made about 1949 and it is a great shooter. That is the first HP rifle I ever fired; in the 50s, my Grandfather was a game warden and he had one. Not this one; I think a cousin stole the original. Great round for short range med game. Now, the real rifle to get is a Win M70 in .35 Rem; they are among the rarest but can be loaded to much higher pressures; see Waters' Pet Loads. I have an arr 09 barreled and ready to stock in Mauser classic style in this caliber. Sort of a 9x50 or so. | |||
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I've got my .35 Rem in a Remington XP-100. Wouldn't be afraid to tackle an elk within reasonable ranges with it. Seems to be a very accurate round, even out of a handgun. | |||
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I'm really missing something because I can't get that velocity in QL going over 60,000 As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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...push it to 80000psi... DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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maybe that's cyberspace velocity. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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I'm having trouble getting enough powder in the case to reach that pressure. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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As I bought a pumpaction Remington Model 25 in .25/20 see thread: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6711043/m/6811053602 I would love to find a Remington Model 14 in .35cal. I just just love to pump.. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Try some Bullseye? Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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I can get 160,000 but not the 2200 As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I have a 336 marlin in 35 with a 16" barrel and button magazine that I carry for deer in the cedar swamps. Also fun is a 6.5 carcano I re-barreled to 35. Take-off barrel and a $40 carcano turned into a lot of fun for very little money. I throated it out to handle spritzers seated well out, feeds flawlessly and does an easy 2200 fps with 200 grn bullets. One of those, ( lets see if it works) projects. | |||
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I'll buy a 200gr gc at 2200 fps from a 16" As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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The carcano has a 22" barrel and a long throat, easyer to get 2200 fps The 16 " Marlin I load to just over 2000 fps. | |||
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First rifle I ever shot. A 1951 marlin 336A waffle top in 35 Remington. My father's deer gun. Reason enough to shoot it. | |||
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OK ! Here are the actuals. Rifle 7.62 X 41 IMP, ( Just a little less capacity than a .35 Rem ) 16" barrel , 297 gas checked bullet. Oehler chronograph. 33.8gr. 4198 - 2024fps. NOT HOT 35gr. 8208 - 2035fps. NOT HOT 35.5 gr. 2200 - 2070fps.NOT MAX. = 2836 ft.lbs. --------------------------------------------------- 30-06 150gr. bullet 2950* fps. = 2872 ft.lbs.---* This number is higher than some factory loads. If the .35 Rem ( slighty higer capacity than the 7.62 x 41 IMP )rifle had a 24" barrel ( properly built rifle ), and a scosh more powder were used the 2200 fps. is well within reason. The restricting force on lead is FAR less than that of copper or steel. Now if any of you nay sayers would like to visit me we'll load up a bunch and head to the range and you'll gain a little knowledge. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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My first elk rifle was 35 Remington in a Remington Model 8 and it was just too heavy for me as a 14 year old back in the day. Saved my money bucking watermelon and got myself a bolt action with a rifle scope. Even though I had 20/20 vision at the time, I couldn't shoot iron sights worth a damn. I still have the Remington model 8 as it was passed down to family. | |||
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marlins in 35 Rem are reasonably popular deer guns in PA. At typical woods ranges they work about as well as could be desired. | |||
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The 35 Remington has a great reputation as a whitetail and black bear cartridge here in Canada. It may not be fast or flat shooting but it really puts game down quickly. On the used gun market Marlin 336's in 35 Rem typically sell very quickly. Hmmm, I think I just talked myself into buying one. It's not the caliber of the rifle that matters - It's the caliber of the man behind it. | |||
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Of interest check the revisited form now being viewed 358 Winchester and heavy bullets. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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The 35 Rem seems to hit harder and gets more blood on the ground that a 30-30 but the end results are the same with both, a dead deer. On Black bear I would opt for the 35 REm every time..Bear hair really soaks up blood and the 35 Rem leaves a better blood trail than the 30-30 according to most bear hunters.. My black bear rifle is a 9.3x62 and it leaves a lot of bear blood everywhere when you blow two holes in Smoky and big ones at that. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I agree bear hair really soaks up blood but if you pierce the lungs, most of the blood is coming out of the nostrils and mouth, not the bullet hole. | |||
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AZ I agree with that but mostly when you don't get complete penetration and no exit hole. With a big exit hole I believe you get blood from mouth nose and the bullet wound and you get more blood. On occasions with a big bore rifle I have seen blood trails on both sides of the animal and believe with heart an lung shots blood squirts out every time the front feet hit the ground on any animal, not just bear. I believe bear tend to leave less blood because of the hair and since they are fairly easy to kill a lot of folks don't use enough gun on them and they end up slow tracking for a lack of blood on the ground. I know the residents of the Smoky mountains love the 35 Rem for that very reason or so they say...I prefer a 9.3 or 375 for bear hunting, but I don't hunt over bait, as bear have always been a target of opertunity while elk hunting, and I'm sure that makes a difference. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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