I found this on the web:-

"Remington has dropped the SAUM line, I am sure that you will still be able to find components, but Remington is no longer chambering new rifles in any of the SAUM calibers. As such you will basically be building a rifle in a caliber that is "dead", and that could have some obvious drawbacks.

If you are looking at a 7mm SAUM, you may want to also look at a 7mm WSM. Basically the WSM line beat out the SAUM line in popularity, IMHO primarily because Remington didn't market the new product line as they should have (don't get me started!). The British F-Class Team took it to the US Team last year running 7mm WSM based rifles.

I am also looking at a 7mm build, and the WSM is what I am looking at for now. You also have the 7mm BR, 7mm-08, and the .280 Rem, all depends on what you prefer. My only concern about the WSM is going to be the recoil, I would have no issues if I could put a break on it, but that would eliminate shooting it in F-Class. I figure that for short duration matches that it will not be a real issue.

Best of Luck!
M Richardson"

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Here in Sa we have a wildcat - the 7mm Tombi developed by Chris van Niekerk. It is basically a 30-06 case necked down to take 7mm bullets. Barrel life is extended over a 6.5-284 for example due to the bigger diameter and lower pressure. I read somewhere that the 270 WSM is more popular than the 7mm WSM.

The 7mm-08 is a more popular choice in the standard Rem Model 7, but shooters wanting a bit more power have rechambered to the excellent, but "obsolescent" .284 Win cartridge.
Whilst the 7mm SAUM adds still more power, and offers a a 160 grain Nosier Partition bullet at 2,960, it has now been discontinued. The 7mm SAUM case has nearly 9 percent more capacity than the similar .284 Win and .280 Rem cases.

A friend of mine has imported a 280 Rem Improved from Surgeon, their tactical rifle, that is shooting great and is perhaps close or similar to our 7mm Tombi. My friend shoots the 168 gr Berger VLD bullet in his 280 Rem AI.

Warrior

I got rid of my 300WSM,very accurate but those fat cartridges would hang up in the action on follow up shot unless opened and closed slowly.75 years of folks screwing around with what was already available.I went with 300 H&H,virtually the same ballistics in long smooth case that chambers like a dream.
Live and Learn

7mm WSM vs. 6.5-284, and Winchester Brass:

Jeff Van Niel tells us: "I've owned and shot both the 6.5-284 and 7 WSM. They are [both] excellent choices. You'll likely get better barrel life on the 7 WSM, but it does recoil more than the 6.5-284. I'm currently shooting the 7 WSM for F-Class at 600 yards and 1K. Although the brass is not as uniform as Lapua, it is also HALF the price.

I prepped and sorted my cases, and have no problems with accuracy using Winchester brass. I anneal my brass every third firing, and it lasts for about nine (9) loads before I toss it. In F-Class I put 55-60 rounds through my 7 WSM in a day, 22-25 rounds at a time in less than 15-18 minutes. Even then, I have 925+ competition rounds through her and she looks good at the throat and shoots like crazy. I've got another 7 WSM coming--this one tight-necked. The 7 WSM is a great chambering."

Warrior

quote:

Originally posted by Cliff Lyle:
It appears the 7 WSM is not doing so well. Is there no redeeming qualities and reasons why a person would prefer the WSM over the Rem Mag?

lighter rifle with the same performance( more or less ) is the only advantage i see.

FWIW The new Model 70 featherweight is now available in 7mm WSM

I doubt this is a sales trick because they are not slow in sales as it took me two months to get a 7-08 in the featherweight

Maybe Winchester should consider re-releasing the models 100 and 88. Shorter cartridges in those rifles may garner interest....but I reckon the "whatever-sm's" will just fade away.

Don't think the 270WSM and the 300WSM will be fading away anytime soon.

11 years and people still think the 300wsm is going to "fade away"? Man, some people really got some bones to pick with new cartridges. The WSM was debuted what, in 2009 at SHOT? And its still being produced in nearly every bolt action rifle line, 2 auto loaders, 1 lever gun, and likely a single shot or two. There is ammo produced by nearly every single ammo manufacturer world wide, from cheapo ammo to top shelf premium.

It ain't going no where, get over it

I would buy a Model 88 Winchester in a heartbeat if it came in 7 m/m WSM. I already have one in .30/.284 and it is a VERY accurate rifle for a lever gun....1/2 groups are common from it with 180 gr. bullets.

quote:

Originally posted by Tech:


The belt is useless, stupid, and simply takes up magazine space. It's retarded.

Would that statement hold true for the 300H&H? Which is after all, the cartridge that spawned the belt.

I have a 7mm RM. The thing I like is the ease of locating ammo with a wide range of bullets.

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:

quote:

Originally posted by Tech:


The belt is useless, stupid, and simply takes up magazine space. It's retarded.

Would that statement hold true for the 300H&H? Which is after all, the cartridge that spawned the belt.

You meant the 375 H&H. The 300 came later but needs it almost as much.

quote:

Originally posted by Cliff Lyle:
It appears the 7 WSM is not doing so well. Is there no redeeming qualities and reasons why a person would prefer the WSM over the Rem Mag?

The short-and-fat argument seems to have some credence, may have started with 308 vs 30-06 some decades ago. The 284 vs 280 pretty much fizzled as a debate, 284 was left to wildcatters for two or three decades, not enough difference to make people buy different rifles (buying more rifles is a completely different question).

I like my 7mm Remington, don't plan to trade it in any time soon. It's been my bottom-line rifle for 25 years now, when there's some question about how much gun is needed.