Have dedided I want another Varmint gun and hence have a rem 700 Police in .300 RUM coming......this model is no longer made ?? it will make a matching pair with the rem 700 .243. I intend to use this as a long range over the truck bonnet rifle for large thin skinned stuff and pigs on the open plains.

It should be a fun toy. I will most likely use 150 gr or 180 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips, I do not think I need a heavy bullet for the stuff I will shoot and the lighter bullets should behave like a 22/250 varmint bullet at RUM speeds

PC,
Sounds glorious. I was hoping to get an SPS in 300Ultra but have since decided to boycott Remington products after the mess we're in with the local importer and the Rem pump rifle. I refuse to spend my money with these idiots.
Cheers...
Con

I have seen the results of shooting, no, BLASTING a coyote with a 300 RUM. Awesome. It is clearly a bit of overkill, but if you enjoy it, then its just fine. You'll have 180 grain bullets doing 3200 -3250 from a typical 24 inch barrel according to my cronograph. Have fun.

Thanks folks......Con, I really suggest you just enjoy and get what you want I know they stuffed up but I had heard a rumour before those pump .223's where here that the pump rifles where being looked at.

Buy a Ruger #1 and have Bob put a .300 RUM barrel on it ??

Those SPS's represent good value I suppose.

There was one Police .300 RUM left after mine was ordered.

OEH....thats the kind of funny stuff I am after, this is not going to be a serious hunting gun but rather a cool spectacular toy !!

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Originally posted by Old Elk Hunter:
I have seen the results of shooting, no, BLASTING a coyote with a 300 RUM. Awesome. It is clearly a bit of overkill, but if you enjoy it, then its just fine. You'll have 180 grain bullets doing 3200 -3250 from a typical 24 inch barrel according to my cronograph. Have fun.

At what range was the coyote and what bullet speed and type of bullet was employed and what happened to the coyote OEH ??

PC:

I have 3 of them and love them. Not politically correct to admit it, but I do. I use them mostly for long range suff. Two are not really hunting rifles at all.

I shot a coyote at about 300yrds with my 300 RUM, and he spun like a top when hit, but there was enough of him to taxidermy. The mount stinks though, and my wife won't let it in the house, thus the ladies at the office have to put up with it.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
PC:

I have 3 of them and love them. Not politically correct to admit it, but I do. I use them mostly for long range suff. Two are not really hunting rifles at all.

AZ I would love to see some pics of you RUMS.....I certainly can't afford three

Don't worry about admitting you like the .300 RUM, it's a cool round for sure and those who say the RUM is to much (ie. the .300 win mag owners) are the same people who profess that they choose the .300 win mag over the 30/06 because it's superior yada, yada, yada,..........well the same hold true for the .300 RUM over the .300 Win mag, more down range performance yada, yada, yada.

Yes it burns more powder etc. but you buy one knowing that don't you you make a conscious decision to accept it for it's pits falls and it's advantages.

It would seem to be an intelligent case design and can be fitted into a standard type action.

I suppose if you have a specific purpose for it it is great.

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Originally posted by Don B:
I shot a coyote at about 300yrds with my 300 RUM, and he spun like a top when hit, but there was enough of him to taxidermy. The mount stinks though, and my wife won't let it in the house, thus the ladies at the office have to put up with it.

Don,

I know where your coming from !! I want more than one staghound dog but the missus said he stinks to much.................I would have a dozen if I was allowd

PC,
My other issue with the 300RUM is that I've a perfectly good 8mmRemMag in the safe. I'd love to run them head to head... but just cant afford to at the moment. When you put your top loads together with the .30 180gr Nosler BT we should get together and compare. My "varmint" load in the 8mmRemMag will also invole the 180gr BT, but hunting loads will be a Barnes TSX if I can get my hands on some. By the way what scope are you putting on your Ultra? I settled for a straight 6x on my 8mm which seems to be fine.
Cheers...
Con

Mine slings a 216gr clinch river at 3200fps from a 30" tube!!! I find the RUMs to be very pleasant to load for as they are just plain accurate.

Good luck.

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My other issue with the 300RUM is that I've a perfectly good 8mmRemMag in the safe. I'd love to run them head to head... but just cant afford to at the moment

I own two 300ultramags and did own an 8mmremmag.The 8mmremmag delivered 3050fps with 200gr bullets out of a 26" barrel while my 300ultramags deliver 3340fps out of a 26" barrel.

More money than sense in my oppinion but if thats what floats your boat!

You do realize that using it as a varminter you will be lucky to get 600 rounds out of the barrel?

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Originally posted by Tumbo:
More money than sense in my oppinion but if thats what floats your boat!

You do realize that using it as a varminter you will be lucky to get 600 rounds out of the barrel?

Yeah I do !! but it will be a fun 600 rounds and after thats burned out I get to put a Kreiger or Hart 32" barrel on it.

Con I am really thinking 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip with this gun be ideal for thin skinned larger varmints, I want 22/250 like bullet perfromance and the way to get it is speeeed

PC,
Seems you too have been lured by the dark-side... ultra-velocity and Remington's With a bit of care I reckon you'll see a good useable 1000 rounds at least, and that's a lot of fun!!! Deep down I still desire a well put together Remington in .257Weatherby for just the kind of hunting your thinking
Cheers...
Con

PC,

I've got a .300RUM PSS. I really like it. It's very accurate. While it's too heavy and bulky for a carrying rifle, I still have used it as one.

I took it to Africa last year along with a LH .243. I took almost all of my animals with the PSS. It was impressive. As others have mentioned, at close range with 180gr Nosler Partitions, it was devastating! And as Another AZ Writer has said, it's very forgiving at long distances in the wind, too.

I think you'll like it.

Steve

Steve,

what mounts and scope are you using ?? Yeah your right it is still Just light enough to carry around a bit. What is recoil like ?? and how would it compare to a .375 H7H or .416 Rigby ??

Have you got pictures of your set up ??

I am thinking Badger Max 50 mounts and Badger 20 moa base and an 8.5-25 leupold with varmint reticle or mil dot.

My rem .243 will have badger Maximised rings and 0 cant badger base. with the leupold 8.5-25 & Varmint reticle.

I was impressed with the way the Police 300 RUM Felt, as it had arrived at the shop today, now all I need is to gather up the funds to pick it up

Con.......my collection was a little one sided with big bores etc. and I have always really needed this type of rifle. For the type of shooting I do this isn't actually a totaly silly choice of gun. And I think it will shoot a tad better than my Ruger 30/06 I got out of.

Remingtons.........THE DARK SIDE or THE BACK NINE.

Con I will be able to write a book", it will be called "Mentally coping with Rem 700's"

PC,
Enjoy that rifle and as you said, not totaly out of kilter with the hunting we have here. Regarding recoil, your going to love it! Before I replaced the barrel on the 8mmRemMag I had a range session with some hot 220gr loads. Walked away laughing as after the big bangers, these "small-bore" magnums feel like a .223 on steroids.
Cheers...
Con

PC,

Have you noticed we keep picking up the same guns? 9.3x62 CZ's. FS CZ's. And now the PSS? I'm obliged to use the "Great minds think alike" cliche.

I've got Leupold QR mounts on mine, with an older-style VariX (not VX) 3 tactical scope with the target turrets and the mildot reticle. It's set up perfectly for long-range shooting. Well, long-range for me. Out to 500 yds or so.

I've got pictures. I'll try to post.

Steve

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Originally posted by Tumbo:
More money than sense in my oppinion

Mine too. Those who claim it is necessary for long range marksmanship do not convince me.

I do like the ultramag family -especially the 338 UM. It's the first improved factory round to come down the pike in years.

For those that complain about recoil, they should try shooting the 375 H&H. If that won't end the Ultramag kick argument, nothing will.

Wish I could say something nice about all the new stubby wonder mags of late.

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Originally posted by HP Shooter:
Those who claim it is necessary for long range marksmanship do not convince me.

Who said anything about "necessary?" Please point it out.

What has been said is fun. And that they are. I've had immensely more fun with my 300 since rechambering it to RUM than when it was a Win Mag (Ooooo, that sure cost a lot of money!!! ).

Also keep in mind nobody is talking about putting little holes in a piece of paper, but killing large animals. That doesn't make it "necessary" but it does make it more useful. One can kill rock chucks just fine with a 22 Hornet. But it's sure more fun with a 22-250.

PC,

I forgot to comment on recoil. Must have been distracted by HP Shooters helpful commentary.

HP shooter, nobody's said it's necessary for long-range marksmanship. I indicated that the wind drift is less severe (though it's not absent) and that makes long distance shooting easier. We already did this on another thread, and it's been nothing but snide comments from you since. On every topic. And not just me. Stop, all right?

PC, the recoil's quick on the .300RUM. Quicker than the .375H&H. Not as heavy, but quicker. Like with most rifles, you'll only notice it on the bench.

Steve

[SKl1,

I have mentally arranged my guns into 3 camps, today at least.

Rem 700's = Heavy Barrelled Varmint Guns.
CZ's & 1 Mauser = Hunting Rifles.
Levers = "sit by themselves"

Yes I would love to see the pics.....I am not sure about my mind being great.......more like "nut"or addict

SK It would seem us .300 RUM lovers are getting a pasting.........same as the 30/06 folks whom ridicule the .300 win mag weatherby owners, there green with envy that the .300 winnie etc. has more down range punch than there 30/06's

Now we have the same situation with the .300 winnie crowd and us highly intelligent .300 RUM owners........

Oh how I hate those 30/378 crowd.......don't they know that burning that extra powder over the RUM is a waste and that there barrel life will be shorter than our RUMS

I like my .300 RUMs, but if I had the choice of shooting a .300 RUM 10 times a year or a .308 Win 1000 times per year, I would take the .308.

RUMs are great for long range, as are all .300 mags, but practicing in the wind is what is most important. So I would actually agree with HP Shooter to a large extent.

There are lots of things we don't need. Eating meat, for example. But since I am pro-choice, I choose to own RUMs, hunt, and eat meat.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
I like my .300 RUMs, but if I had the choice of shooting a .300 RUM 10 times a year or a .308 Win 1000 times per year, I would take the .308.

RUMs are great for long range, as are all .300 mags, but practicing in the wind is what is most important. So I would actually agree with HP Shooter to a large extent.

There are lots of things we don't need. Eating meat, for example. But since I am pro-choice, I choose to own RUMs, hunt, and eat meat.

I think we're all in violent agreement that practice is more important than caliber when it comes to long-range shooting.

Steve

Actually, Jarrod, we are having dinner tonight with some friends, one of whom is a vegetarian. She is slim and healthly, like many vegetarians.

Humans don't have to eat meat to live. We do so for our own pleasure. There is nothing morally superior about eating an animal versus hanging its head on the wall. Once the non-hunting public realizes that, maybe they will realize how inconsistent it is to protest hunting the same day they gorge on T bones.

Jon A,..my 1000yd Light Gun is a 300RUM,...and littel holes in papaer are also readily available with the RUM family.

AnotherAZWriter,
not trying to start anything here. but you may be slim and be a vegetarian, but to have a complete diet includes meat period. I never said you had to eat meat to live I know several vegetarians myself, but to have a complete diet includes meat.
I could go into the whole thing but that would be a long discussion and a whole other topic so I am just going to leave it at that.

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Yeah I do !! but it will be a fun 600 rounds and after thats burned out I get to put a Kreiger or Hart 32" barrel on it.

Con I am really thinking 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip with this gun be ideal for thin skinned larger varmints, I want 22/250 like bullet perfromance and the way to get it is speeeed

I have a load of 85 grains of XMR 4350 and a 150 Sierra that I loaded up for coyotes. It shoots .5 MOA. Unfortunately the gun is for sale and I'll never get to shoot a coyote in half as I intended.

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Originally posted by JustC:
Jon A,..my 1000yd Light Gun is a 300RUM,...and littel holes in papaer are also readily available with the RUM family.

Oh don't worry, I wasn't saying they couldn't do that--far from it. I was only countering HP Shooter's statement that they aren't "necessary" for it by pointing out nobody was talking about it in this thread anyway.

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Originally posted by bowhuntrrl:

quote:

Yeah I do !! but it will be a fun 600 rounds and after thats burned out I get to put a Kreiger or Hart 32" barrel on it.

Con I am really thinking 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip with this gun be ideal for thin skinned larger varmints, I want 22/250 like bullet perfromance and the way to get it is speeeed

I have a load of 85 grains of XMR 4350 and a 150 Sierra that I loaded up for coyotes. It shoots .5 MOA. Unfortunately the gun is for sale and I'll never get to shoot a coyote in half as I intended.

Bowhunter,

it's a shame you have to sell....sounds as though it's with regret ??

Maybe you should keep it and find the few hundred from else where, you maye be much happier a few months down the track.

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
AnotherAZWriter,
not trying to start anything here. but you may be slim and be a vegetarian, but to have a complete diet includes meat period. I never said you had to eat meat to live I know several vegetarians myself, but to have a complete diet includes meat.
I could go into the whole thing but that would be a long discussion and a whole other topic so I am just going to leave it at that.

Sorry jarrod, unless you are a doctor specializing in diet, I don't buy it. It is in our best interests as hunters to state you don't have to eat meat. Why? Because the vast majority of the population will never give up their T bones. Therefore, they kill animals (albeit indirectly) for their own pleasure. No better than hunters, meat, trophy or varmint.

On the other hand, if meat is a requirement for human life, then one could make an argument against hunting but still chomp down the t bone. Get it?

Thanks Jarrod !! and I do not mind if people get off track I enjoy reading the diet stuff !!

Jarrod what brand of .300 RUM do you shoot and what scope etc. are you using.

I received a set of Badger Maximised mounts tonight from the states and there they are the strongest looking mounts I have handled to date and very well finished. I like the industriel look they give off, I will get another ste for my .300 RUM.

PC, with a heavy scope on top of her, your RUM will need some substantial rings to hold it in place. badgers are a good start.

Jon A, yeah I see your point. The RUM has been quite easy to load for and very accurate from 7mm-338cal thus far.

JUst C I am even thinking about the Max 50 Badger rings for the .300 RUM.

I am really impressed with Badger stuff.

PC,
It is a model 700 S/S weaver grand slam 4.5x14 scope. I usually shoot ballistic tips from 150-180gr as that is the only bullet I really need around here.Nothing big to hunt here. It doesn't seem to be to picky about loads at all. It is just like it come from the factory. Only thing is the trigger was lighthened a little bit.
I am considering switching to a little tougher bullet maybe or slowing her down a little bit.
I killed nice 8point with it using factory partitions and they worked really good. Had the reloads and the factory loads sitting next to each other. Accidentally grabbed the factory loads but it was zeroed with the reloads, killed the 8pointer at three hundred yards and hit where I was aiming so it wasn't to big of a mistake
I know a lot of people badmouth it and all that crap but I really like mine.
It was actually my dad's to begin with but the recoil was to much for him so he gave it to me for Christmas. Can't complain about that. I had much rather have nice wood but it is the only S/S rifle I have so I guess I will just leave it the way it is.

Jarrod,

I feel the .300 RUM has a place, but I do not need to justify it to anyone, to buy a rem 700 in this caliber does not cost to much to give it a go.

I have apurpose in mind for mine that my other rifles won't fulfill at any rate.