I didn't know that it had gone anywhere nor has a host of satisfied users!

465H&H

Boddington's two favorite cartridges are 7x57 and 30/06. Get your facts straight before calling someone a jerk!

Hi,

Along with the .375 H6H, the Mauser 98 and7x57 is my favorite gun/cartridge pair!
This link shows the April Red Deer Hunt with this 7x57 using Nosler Partition 175 grs at 2650 f/s. Deadly!

http://forums.accuratereloadin...4107165/m/7261067351

Regards

PH

An easey way to build a quality 7x57 is to pick up a Model 12 Steyr action. It will say Waffenfabrik Steyr on the side rail. This fine action was set up for the 7x57 and will feed like a dream. Put a quality barrel on it and the stock of your choice and you will have an extremely fine rifle in 7x57. ( I didn't mention the bolt job and safety , plus drilling and tapping, but you already know that- right?) Mori

I have three rifles in 7x57. A Ruger #1A, a Winchester M70 Featherweight and a custom based on an M98 FN Mauser action. Yhe two bolt actions are sub-MOA so far with everthing I've run through them but the Ruger is at best a 1.25" gun. I was a 4" gun until I sent it back to Ruger. My gunsmith determined tht it has a two inch throat that was seriously out of spec. It took a bit over 7 months to get that gun back but at least it's huntable.
As I did not draw any tags (again ) in my home state, I've got to figure out a play for play hunt of some kind where I might use the #1. It's my only 7x57 that hasn't gone hunting yet with emphasis on the "yet".
Paul B.

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Originally posted by LJS:
Boddington's two favorite cartridges are 7x57 and 30/06. Get your facts straight before calling someone a jerk!

I dont care if I offend Craig Boddington as he offends me perpetually. The man is nothing but a whizbang whore for the manufacturers. And if he loves the 7X57 so much then maybe he shouldnt be calling for it to "go away" along with the 6mm and the 257 Rob and a plethora of other cartridges..


My drag-n-drop isnt working for reasons Im not sure of. But just google "cartridges we can live without" and youll see the arrogant JERK deciding what is right for virtualy everyone in the US..

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
I didn't know that it had gone anywhere nor has a host of satisfied users!

465H&H

It hasnt, nor has a multitude of its fans. But dont you think it sucks that Remington and Winchester discontinued it? Thats the whole point.

Yea, you can still find it here and there, if you want to pay Norma prices for Remington brass..

I like to buy American when I can, but sometimes you have to vote (or protest) with your wallet.

Except as a custom rifle, the 7x57 is gone. The 7x57 was and remains an excellant cartridge but it's effective useful range is covered by other more popular rounds.

Manufactors are in business to make money. To make money they have to sell products, to sell anything requires buyers. Anything that sells below a certain level will be dropped from production no matter it's basic qualities. That's just facts, not my desire. (I think Ford should make 1964 1/2 Mustangs again but they won't.)

So many OLD rifles exist for the OLD rounds that none of them can be factory loaded at modern pressures so many are doomed by that fact if no other.

Anyone wanting to save, or restore, any old item in the market needs to buy more of them and all will be well, if not, it's gone no matter what any add campaign does or what any writer says.

I really think manufacturers will 'bring it back' in factory rifles in the near future.IMHO

I just wanted to correct myself.
Since I live in a motel the majority of the time, I have to go off of memory while away. I got back home yesterday and took a look at my rifles.
I cannot see why a 7X57 would not work in a M-70 M-16 Sav. short action except for the ammo box as someone else pointed out. My loaded 150 gr. cases JUST barely fit with the lead tip bumping metal. Long bullets would be a problem. In a Winney short action about .090" clearance.
I do not own any short action M-700s so I do not know if a loaded 7X57 cartridge would work through the action but I think they probably would since it is a push feed. I would assume it must be the 700 storage compartment also that is the problem as they (Remington) built the 7mm X 57 on a long action rather than modify the mag well.

Edited cause I posted wrong action.

7x57 Mauser - Love it!!!

Sporterized Model 95 Chilean Mauser:





Original step barrel, action and bolt all numbers match. Restocked and FL glass bedded before I got to it (guessing 1960s or 70s with the white spacers style). Good walnut stock, so just fixed the recoil pad and left all the character in stock alone. Bolt was in white so had in jeweled. Really likes the old Winchester 140 factory power points so have not tried to reload for it yet.

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Originally posted by LJS:
Boddington's two favorite cartridges are 7x57 and 30/06. Get your facts straight before calling someone a jerk!

Boddington's favourite rifles seem to change monthly. I even recall an article where he listed his favourite in just about all calibres from .22 to .458

I really think that Rifle manufacturers would make more money by adding a classic cartridge for a yearly run rather than constantly trying to introduce new cartridges.

I give Ruger some props for the 9.3x62 introduction in the African. Next year they should switch out 9.3x62 for 7x57.

Their RCM rifles are really cool platform for short actions. Add a 358 Win next hear. Hell, work with Hornady to reintroduce a wiz bang superperformace 358 Win round to go with it.

Rifle and ammo manufacturers are constantly trying to introduce new rounds to sell rifles to looneys like me. I think they would sell more rifles if they kept releasing yearly limited runs of classic rounds.

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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
I really think that Rifle manufacturers would make more money by adding a classic cartridge for a yearly run rather than constantly trying to introduce new cartridges.

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..... I think they would sell more rifles if they kept releasing yearly limited runs of classic rounds.

I agree! Remington had it and dropped it - STUPID decision, but it opens the door for another manufacturer.

Winchester should pick-up the yearly classic in their new model 70 supergrade!!!

How about this line-up for the 1st five years:

270
7x57
30-06
8x57
9.3x62

Whoa! I have been shooting the 7x57 since I bought my fires Brno mod 22, and have not been without for more than 90 days in my lifetime..

I have always been able to buy brass and actually I picked up some bargain 200 WW new cases at a gun show last week in Idaho..Huntingtons has brass, Sportsman Whse has it..

In fact, the 7x57 is way more popular today in both Africa and the USA than it has been in the last 50 or so years.

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Originally posted by RaySendero:

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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
I really think that Rifle manufacturers would make more money by adding a classic cartridge for a yearly run rather than constantly trying to introduce new cartridges.

.....
..... I think they would sell more rifles if they kept releasing yearly limited runs of classic rounds.

I agree! Remington had it and dropped it - STUPID decision, but it opens the door for another manufacturer.

Winchester should pick-up the yearly classic in their new model 70 supergrade!!!

How about this line-up for the 1st five years:

270
7x57
30-06
8x57
9.3x62

Nice line up. I'd like to see them offer a featherweight in classic rounds. Here is my 5 year line up:

7x57
358 Win
6.5x55
8x57
257R

I always thought a 300 H&H and a 375 H&H in a matching combo set from Winchester would be slick. Both with nice wood stock of course.

I suppose a 7X57 and a 9.3 X 62 wood combo would be equally as good.

To get right down to it...EVERYONE I know is a whore at something...no need for the flame...Boddington is just doing what everyone does...sell himself for MONEY...you did, I did, and everyone except some street bum/welfare pile did.

Jim C hit it center mass...ANYONE can have a 7x57...it is a simple rebarrel for the most part, but just as the cars from the 50's are gone except for those few treasures...so EVERYTHING lives for a time then dies...GET OVER IT...the 7x57 is still alive and well and taking game all over the world and brass or another case that can be used is almost as plentiful as 30-06.

If you want a 7x57, have one made...or ANYOTHER obsolete/gonebythewayside cartridge...gunsmsiths or available receivers haven't suddenly disappeared just because the gunmakers dropped the cartridge. I have no trouble acquiring ANY cartridge or caliber I happen to want.

I haven't talked to anyone yet that didn't have their "FAVORITE"...SOMETHING, be it a rifle or a wife and a thousand more think that choice sucks...Most of these "lists" never have quite the rifles I think should be included...but that's YOUR choice and MINE, and neither are right OR wrong.

You have a favorite, just have one built or a swithch barrel screwed on...simple, cheap, available, and NO WHINNEY GARBAGE....DAMN.

Luck

I've used and loved my 7x57 for 40. Boddington about the same amount of time. I've met him on several occasions and consider him to be an honorable , knowledgeable gentleman. FYI Winchester does still make 7x57 brass and ammo, but iy is seasonable. You just haven't looked enough, somebody still has some left over from l;ast year. PS. I think you're a jerk.

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Originally posted by Rae59:
I always thought a 300 H&H and a 375 H&H in a matching combo set from Winchester would be slick. Both with nice wood stock of course.

I suppose a 7X57 and a 9.3 X 62 wood combo would be equally as good.

Whooa - Classic matching pairs:


300HH and 375HH on a magnum long action

7x57 and 9.3x62 on std length action


PS: I just hope they can see how good an idea you had Scott!

The ammo boys discontinue production on many calibers from time to time, I think to get caught up with the top sellers..I have over the years had trouble getting .416 Rem. 250 Savage, 25 rem. 300 H&H to name just a few, the the price goes sky high and the ammo boys jump on the band wagon and run off a batch..It may be conspiracy! who knows?

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Originally posted by RaySendero:

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Originally posted by Rae59:
I always thought a 300 H&H and a 375 H&H in a matching combo set from Winchester would be slick. Both with nice wood stock of course.

I suppose a 7X57 and a 9.3 X 62 wood combo would be equally as good.

Whooa - Classic matching pairs:


300HH and 375HH on a magnum long action

7x57 and 9.3x62 on std length action


PS: I just hope they can see how good an idea you had Scott!

My classic pair is a .318 and a .404. Grand calibers, both of them.

Sarge,
Dammit! I like all those rounds you listed up there, that would be utopia to own them all and fortunatly or unfortunatly I do as a matter of fact....
but is there really a best pair, I have searched for that pair my whole life and it just never has worked with me as I am forever changing favorite cartridges..

If ever a toll on this blog comes up with a top 20 I can handle that perhaps...

Hey Ray,

Did you happen to know a Chap by the name of Earl Merryweather? He was an old school gunsmith, knew Ackley and apparently he lived in Wyoming for some time.

Apparently he passed away last year and I picked a bunch of brass from his son yesterday.. Just curious if you were aquainted, I would bet money that Malmborg knew him..