Correct, All. As a matter of fact, the 1st time I took apart my son-in-law's Mauser 66, I was amazed by the similarity. I've no doubt that the M66 served as an example. I also believe this rifle's main fault is to have been introduced way ahead of its time...

I held a Mausser 66S 7x64 last weekend, and was quite impressed. Extremly well-made and very intriging action ...

Actually, the Mauser 66 was a Walther Gehman development, born 20 years too early and also much too expensive. The telescoping bolt is a work of art and the barrel attachment more than inspired Blaser. The 66 S pictured is a 7x64.

I have seen 3 of them and they are very nice made, but they were ca 25 years to early out with their features. Fine rifles that has good quality making and handling qualities.

I scored on another Sauer 202 today! It is an Outback 308 NIB with an extra 5 shot magazine scoped with a Leupold VX-II 3-9 in Burris Zee rings, and all for $1500.

These things are addictive!!!

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
I scored on another Sauer 202 today! It is an Outback 308 NIB with an extra 5 shot magazine scoped with a Leupold VX-II 3-9 in Burris Zee rings, and all for $1500.

These things are addictive!!!

You got that right! Nice buy! Glad I didn't see it or I would have did it again!

Since I already have my Sauer in 270 and am very fond of the caliber, I have made a deal with a friend to trade the 308 that I have just bought for a Sauer 202 lightweight in 22-250.

Does anyone have one or any experience with a Sauer in 22-250?

My brother has hunted with this caliber for years, but this will be my first gun in 22-250.

I've got one in the 'Standard' oil finished wood, and no cheekpiece. It's like all of my 202's it flat shoots. Recoil is very minimal in the 202, which is the case with all my 22-250's actually.
One odd thing, I actually would like a flatter--beavertail style forend for this rifle, as with the 22-250 I am usually hunitng varmints from a rest setup, or punching paper, and that would suit those applications better. As a hunting rig, it's like all my 202's also--Fantastic!

Jeff, congrats, that was my old 22-250. It shot very well when it had the right ammo. I didn't have time to handload for it. At one time Hornady was making a non-moly bullet that shot 1/2" or better. I think it was the 8336 before they moly coated it... The moly coated 8336 didn't shoot very well in it. I found a old box of Norma 22-250s and they shot lights out in it too. I didn't get a chance to try many loads in it. I did try the white box Winchester 45 grain bullets and they were awful. Still have 34-36 of those in the safe. Wanted to try the silvertips and some of the other Federal-Hornady stuff but decided to move to a 243 instead. I hate coyotes with a passion and figured the 243 would hit them a little bit harder and I could use it more for whitetails if I chose to. I know Ron didn't use it much either so you have a "new" gun for practical purposes. I did buy it new at the time. In fact I found the box recently in my closet and when Ron comes through town next time around I'm going to send it along with him to give to you.

FWIW I have a new 202 lightweight in 270 win and it is awesome. It will shoot factory Federal 130 Bal tip and 150 NP in almost the same hole. I've owned some accurate rifles over the years but I'll put this one right there with the best of them. Also have the lightweight in 243 and it loves the 58 grain Hornadys. Same thing, one on top of the other. I'd like to see what a "good" shooter could do with either of those..

Great seeing this many 202 owners in one spot. I sometimes think we're an endangered species.

I am looking for a 300 Wby in the synthetic model is somebody has one they'd like to part with. Currently about to give up on a 300 RUM in the Rem 700. It gets one more chance to do what I want it to and if not, somebody else can fool with it.

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Originally posted by thechamp:

Great seeing this many 202 owners in one spot. I sometimes think we're an endangered species.

Well, if they made the same overwhelming and perhaps aggressive advertising for Sauer as they do for the Blaser brand, we wouldn't be. It seem to be a quiet well preserved secret!

But of course, Sauer & Blaser are in the same concern ...

I am finishing up a load for my 202 in 300 wby and I'm getting one big hole with barne TSXs and 7828 powder. This rifle is just amazing. My 270 isn't quite as accurate yet but it is still well under moa with 4831 and TSXs.

As if this wasn't great enough I just pull the rear stock and put it in a compact case for flying and it doesn't scream rifle case.

I got so nice compliments at the range today, people seem to be drawn to their beauty.

202 300 wby? hmmm

I'm going to take my Colt Sauer in 300 Wby to the range tomorrow and see what it does. Bought it from a fella last year who's dad gave it to him in 1984. He's not a long gun shooter so he never shot it, but kept it since it was his dads.

Recently I took the (98%-100%) mint stock off and had it bedded into a McMillan, put a Swarovski on it and now it's ready to go. Suspect it will shoot well but it is too pretty still to really go hunting with. That's why I'm still looking for a synthetic stocked 202 in the 300 wby.

Curious if you tried factory ammo in your 202? I had a Lux/Supreme one that shot factory Wby ammo at about 1/2" to 3/4". No complaints on that one either.

Just pulled off a .200" 3shot group at 200yards with 7mm mag 202, bloody amazing how well this gun shoots! I continued firing and It opened up to .770" for 5 shots I think all the stars were alinged! But seriously these gun shoot better than we can thats for sure!
Great guns!
Elmer

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Originally posted by thechamp:
202 300 wby? hmmm

I'm going to take my Colt Sauer in 300 Wby to the range tomorrow and see what it does. Bought it from a fella last year who's dad gave it to him in 1984. He's not a long gun shooter so he never shot it, but kept it since it was his dads.

Recently I took the (98%-100%) mint stock off and had it bedded into a McMillan, put a Swarovski on it and now it's ready to go. Suspect it will shoot well but it is too pretty still to really go hunting with. That's why I'm still looking for a synthetic stocked 202 in the 300 wby.

Curious if you tried factory ammo in your 202? I had a Lux/Supreme one that shot factory Wby ammo at about 1/2" to 3/4". No complaints on that one either.

I've shot factory ammo from Hornady to Weatherby from 150 grains to 220. It all shoots under an inch MOA. I have had the best luck with Nosler Ballistic tips and Barnes triple X bullets. I have tried 7828, RL22, 4350, and 4831. 7828 and 4831 are the most accurate but you give up velocity with the 4831. I have used Fed 210 rifle primers and 215 Fed magnum primers and they both shoot accurately but you need the 215s to keep velocity up. To be honest I could hunt with any of the loads I have put together but it is just amazing to get it dialed in and put shots on top of each other.

My rifle didn't like RL22 that much and I'd use any of the others I mentioned over this one.

Sounds good, glad to hear the factory stuff performed that well. Mine liked the factory Wby but did not like the Hornady or Remington loads. About all I tried in it since it was a "toy" that never was even taken hunting.

My Colt Sauer performed like a jewel today. Only thing I tried in it was the Wby factory 165 Spire points. It consistently shot 3 shot groups with 2 out of the 3 in one ragged hole and the other one just outside of it. Had one 5 shot group that was about a 3/4" in., and that included a scope adjustment of a couple of clicks, which amounted to about .36" of adjustment, .18 each. All very impressive. Hats off to Tip Burns, "Burns Gun Repair" who fitted and bedded the action to the McMillan stock. He obviously did a great job.

The Rem 300 ultra was better than before but not sure if it's worth toying with since I'd rather have another 300 Wby in a 202... Suspect that means it's going to be for sale fairly soon. The 300 Ultra would probably be fine if it was bedded into the BDL stock. But it would still not be a Sauer!

Thanks for the info. I'm going to hang on to your choices in powder, etc., since I'll be reloading in the not too distant future. The price beats the factory retail prices by a mile, especially for the 'high dollar' bullets. I'm a Nosler Ballistic Tip fan but am hearing a lot of folks really pleased with the Barnes bullets and their accuracy. The ballistic tips I've used so far have been very accurate and hit with authority.

Nosler Ballistic tips shoot wonderful out of my gun too. I'm having a tougher time getting Nosler partitions to group as good as these two.

I never met a 202 that didn't shoot (anything ?) in <MOA, out of the box. I kept the backing of the first targets I fired with my then new 202 in 7x64, back in 1995. Here it is, a composite group of 30 shots, 6 loadings with 154,162 & 175 bullet. All in 2.6 MOA...

Andre, if you have access to any Remington Accutips I'd like to hear what they do in your rifles. I don't own a rifle that they will shoot in. The old Remington Noslers shoot extremely well but I have had no luck with the Accutips.

Geoff, As for Partitions, my new 202 likes the 270 Federal Noslers. My Remington 700 did fair with them but the Fed Bal Tips shoot much better in it.

Just to tip in. My Sauer 202 in 6.5x55 shoot realy well. The first group I shoot from him was 8mm, 3 shoot group from 100m. As I have Zeiss 3-12 scope with german nr. 4 rect. I am going to get a Weaver T-36 just for fun to realy test it for longer ranges.

Does anybody have some of those new cases

http://www.sauer-waffen.de/index.php?id=283&lang=en

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Originally posted by sherpi:
Does anybody have some of those new cases

http://www.sauer-waffen.de/index.php?id=283&lang=en

Sure don't but if you have a spare you want to sell on the cheap keep me in mind...lol

Actually I usually leave mine together so I doubt I'd really use one but they are awful purdy!

These are picks of my first Sauer S 202 in 9.3x62....it's incredibly accurate with everything that I have tried out so far !

375 H&H Supreme Lux. Leupold 1.5x5 Vari-X III.

And here is how my Sauer S202 9.3x62 shoots ! This is 4 shots at 100 metres (110 yards) with 250 gr. Accubond !

Lovely.

Just move that scope three clicks up. Worry no more.

Finally happy with mine now:

7x64

What is the difference between the 200s and the 202s? Is it just the safety? I understand the barrels and bolts are interchangeable (between 200s and 202s)?

The 200 was the first model. I have never physically had one in my hands so I don't know for sure but I've been told the action was all steel and a little heavier. In addition the stocks supposedly do not interchange either. I know the barrels do, believe the bolts do to. Everybody I know that's owned both swore by the 200 as actually being a better shooter than the 202. No idea why, especially since it's the same barrel. Might have had a better trigger in it since that mechanism has been changed. And oh btw don't ask Sauer about lighting a 202 trigger unless you want a 2 hour lecture as to why that can't be done...lol That is my complaint against the 202. Sure wish you could set the trigger down into the 2# range.

I'm looking for a bolt that will fit the 270-06 calibers if somebody has one sitting around..

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
340Wby,
Due to its narrow ejection port (which makes for a very rigid receiver, BTW) and its thin single pile magazine, the 202 cannot be top loaded. For a refill, one has to take out the
magazine and push the cartridges under the lips, pistol
fashion.

In that case you simply insert a spare, loaded mag. It's much faster than reloading a standard bolt action mag. I have 202 synthetic (McMillan stock) with barrels chambered for 270 Win and 9.3x62. It's definitely a very well made and designed rifle; however I find it difficult to find spare barrels, especially those chambered for metric rounds.

Can I ask where you got the McMillan stock?

Thanks

Kyle

Hi thechamp
Does your Sauers have set trigger? Mine has one, you just push it forward and it is very light.

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Originally posted by rarms:
Can I ask where you got the McMillan stock?

Thanks

Kyle

McMillan is the OEM stock on the earlier 202 synthetic model. The newer sythetic stocks are made by someone else. It's very easy to tell the difference by looking at the two.

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Originally posted by 340Wby:
How do you Sauer 202 owners find the timber forend & barrel channel gap in the wet moist areas? Does it stay even, or does it have a tendency to warp?
The reason I'm asking this. I did here of one 202 with this problem, didn't handle the wet conditions that well.
Just want as many general opinions as possibly.

Where I hunt, it rains a fare bit, which makes it quiet moist & damp at the best of times.

How would you rate these Sauer timber stocks for wet-moist conditions?
I don't mind scratching up the timber or getting it dirty. But I can't stand uneven forend/barrel channels on a rifle.

I'm also looking at the Classic Synthetic, as this is another good option I think.

Just had a prob with my 3 yr old S202 classic after a very wet 6 months, when I tightened the fore-end onto the action the forend (by the swivel) pulled left to touch the barrel, I got some very fine sandpaper and gently removed a few thou at a time from the right hand side (looking from the top down) edge of the fore-end wood where it butts up to the back of the action above the trigger, took an hour or so but it now fits perfect again.
Sauer claim the wood is non warping, but after the rain mine has been in I'm not surprised it warped a bit. Its a real nice rifle.

What sights does Sauer use on their barrels? Where can I get a couple sets? They look similar to the Williams sights found on Winchester, etc.

Lou

Look at www. die-waffenschmiede.de, owner is Mark Ganske, a young custom-gunmaker (Büchsenmacher) learned at Hartmann & Weiss, his speciality is to push up Sauer S 202 with classic stocks, also Sako and Mauserrifles.

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
What sights does Sauer use on their barrels? Where can I get a couple sets? They look similar to the Williams sights found on Winchester, etc.

Lou

Doc, I think they are Recknagels available through NECG. If you want factory originals, Lee at Blaser USA told me he could get them, but it would be several months before they came in, do not quote me, but I think he said they cost 185.00 or there abouts.

Ron, Dabbling in non-Blaser brands??? Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!

If anyone wants to join the Sauer 202 bandwagon, I have a new one in 300 Win Mag I took in trade for one of my safari rifles. It is gorgeous; a Supreme Grade, but I have 5 or 6 rifles in that caliber already. If you'd like pix, PM me your email. $2,295...probably $1,000 under value, but that's all I have into it in the trade.

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Originally posted by ron williams:

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
What sights does Sauer use on their barrels? Where can I get a couple sets? They look similar to the Williams sights found on Winchester, etc.

Lou

Doc, I think they are Recknagels available through NECG. If you want factory originals, Lee at Blaser USA told me he could get them, but it would be several months before they came in, do not quote me, but I think he said they cost 185.00 or there abouts.

Brownells also carries some Recknagel sights.

I ordered an S202 Elegance in 9.3x62 this weekend. Can't wait for it to arrive