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I thought Taurus had a great idea when they came out with the Taurus Tracker TKR 4SS hand gun. I bought one with ported stainless 4-inch barrel, so it could be used as a conceiled carry in addition to stopping bears when I'm working in the hills of Arkansas. I still think it is a winner of a design, and it is loud, but does not have excessive recoil or muzzle rise. Ought to scare the bad guys just with its blast noise alone.

The barrel arrived from the factory quite dirty, so I couldn't even see the rifling until it was thoroughly cleaned. Then it became apparent that the barrel interior appeared to be hammered into shape. There are areas of smooth rifling and areas of scaloping. When I shoot my 9mm automatic from a rest I get 4 inch groups at 25 yards. With the Taurus I get 6 inch groups. Another problem is that I can't easily get the cases out of the cylinder. I use Hornady 180 grain and 200 grain ammo, but nothing real hot. The pressure in the case appears to practically weld the case to cylinder walls. I have to use a gun rod and pound the fired cases out of the cylinder. Not exactly what you would like to see in your conceiled carry gun. Is there any advice for me here? These guns come with life-time warranty. Is this one to keep shooting and break it in more, or is this one to send back to the factory for exchange. Is this workmanship what is expected in this category of weapon? At this point I just get the feeling that Taurus does not place much emphasis on quality or quality control. Thanks for your thoughts.


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Posts: 161 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 16 May 2006Reply With Quote
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Get your money back.
 
Posts: 4372 | Location: NE Wisconsin | Registered: 31 March 2007Reply With Quote
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Get rid of it.

I had a Taurus revolver once, never again. I didn't have the problems that you had. It just didn't even come close to the quality of a S&W, Ruger or Colt.
 
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I would definitely return it.



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I have at least 5 Taurus revolvers and all are very good shooters of a quality build, however I did have to send my Total Titanuim 45 Long Colt back for a minor repair and they took care of it quickly at zero cost to me. Send it back with a note and see what happens before making a judgement on their quality. Any gun manufacturer can send a dud from time to time..even Freedom Arms.
 
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I've gone through several Taurus revolvers. In my opinion, their rimfire guns are generally good to go and their centerfire revolvers are hit and miss. I currently have a 44SS6 and Tracker 45ACP that are great shooters with thousands of rounds through them (and some stiff ones through the 44!)- no problems. I've had several of their rimfires and only one had a gouged ratchet from the factory, which they fixed with no further issues.


I also have a Judge and an Ultra-lite 44 that have depth variations in the cylinder locking notches and come unlocked during recoil. They rotate enough that I get firing pin marks on the primers of adjacent cartridges. I'm still trying to get them to pay for the shipping to return these for repair, as they won't mail me new cylinders. Taurus will pay to ship the gun back to you, but so far they require you to pay for the initial shipping. At roughly $100 to overnight and insure a handgun, that takes the shine off of their "lifetime warranty".
I'm still waiting on an answer from higher than customer service since my two cylinder issues are a safety concern right out of the box.

For anyone that saw the video here a few weeks ago of the 500 S&W doubling, I've still got brass from that Ultra-lite that , by the FP marks on the primers, came too damn close for my comfort.

Good luck Bill.


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I have a Tracker in 41 Mag and love it. It is my woods gun. The only issue I have is the chamber walls are just a little rough and it holds the spent cases harder than I would like, but it is no big deal. If it was a problem, I would send it to Malm (Westpac) to work over anyway.


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Go to your LGS and ask 3 different guys behind the counter which brand of handgun is returned the most and it might surprise you.
 
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Sounds like you got a lemon. Take it back for a refund or replacement. FWIW, I have 2 Taurus handguns, a revolver in .22 magnum (941) and a 9mm auto (Millenium), and I've been 100% satisfied with both.

The revolver doesn't exhibit S&W-level fit and finish, but it's been dependable and it shoots great.
 
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I've gone through several Taurus revolvers. In my opinion, their rimfire guns are generally good to go and their centerfire revolvers are hit and miss. I currently have a 44SS6 and Tracker 45ACP that are great shooters with thousands of rounds through them (and some stiff ones through the 44!)- no problems. I've had several of their rimfires and only one had a gouged ratchet from the factory, which they fixed with no further issues.


I also have a Judge and an Ultra-lite 44 that have depth variations in the cylinder locking notches and come unlocked during recoil. They rotate enough that I get firing pin marks on the primers of adjacent cartridges. I'm still trying to get them to pay for the shipping to return these for repair, as they won't mail me new cylinders. Taurus will pay to ship the gun back to you, but so far they require you to pay for the initial shipping. At roughly $100 to overnight and insure a handgun, that takes the shine off of their "lifetime warranty".
I'm still waiting on an answer from higher than customer service since my two cylinder issues are a safety concern right out of the box.

For anyone that saw the video here a few weeks ago of the 500 S&W doubling, I've still got brass from that Ultra-lite that , by the FP marks on the primers, came too damn close for my comfort.

Good luck Bill.


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Find a FFL to send it USPS for you.Last one cost me $20.00 for shipping.[/QUOTE]

Did the FFL charge you anything beyond the $20 shipping?


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sounds like a lemon, send it back


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I had one that the cases stuck really bad, sent it back and they made it good. The gun also was very accurate with h110 and 200 xtp's then someone stole it out of my truck. I replaced it with an idenical one and got rid of it because it was very inaccurate.
 
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Thank you for waiting for my update on the 5-shot Taurus .44 mag. Stainless Tracker pistol with built-in muzzle compensator. It sounds like there are other people who have had some similar experiences with Taurus. "WoodrowS" suggested to send it back and let them know how rough the barrel lands are (as compared to the better-looking grooves) then see what they do. "Big_foot" ran into a problem with the cost of returning his. "Larrys" noted that he had trouble with the chamber walls being rough, another example of the very problem I had with mine.

Yes, taking your suggestions I sent it back using the local gun shop where I bought it. The Taurus company picked up the cost of the return since their representative makes the rounds periodically, so he picked it up when he was passing through town. I included a note about how corrugated the lands turned out and how the cylinder walls are so rough and irregular that I have to hammer the fired cases out of the cylinder. The brass basically welds itself onto the irregularities in the stainless steel, so there is no easy way to extract it.

Taurus kept it for a month. Today I got it back. They apparently agreed that the barrel was defective. They removed it and put a new one on. I could tell that this barrel is nice and shiney at this point, although I had to clean the barrel just to see the metal surface. That is common for Taurus, so I was prepared for that. I showed up at the gun shop with a barrel brush and cloth. The cylinder chambers still did have irregularities in them. They were also filthy and had to be cleaned just to be examined. It looked fairly obvious that the cylinder chambers did receive some company attention. They had been brushed with a drill. This reduced the degree of metal swirling and irregularities on the sides of the chambers. The result is that I now have a fairly nice product.

I couldn't wait to try these new Hornady Critical Defense, 180 grain .44 cartridges. This is the FTX (Flex Tip Expansion) round with nickel case and polymer tip. They market this for home defense. On the box it states that the muzzle Velocity is 1235 fps. I ordered them from Cabelas for $18.99 for a box of 20. They are slightly less at Natchez and Midway.

Here is the punch line. The result is that this gun is now a pleasure to shoot. The muzzle hardly jumps at all. It is a pleasure to have the slight recoil it produces in spite of the fact that my gun is definitely not all that heavy as .44s go. The recoil is down around or less than .357 mag. I think my wife would have no trouble handling this now. Using these new nickel-surface Hornady cases seems to help with extraction now. No more banging cases out. They actually slide out easily. The groups I am getting at 25 yards are not like I can get with my Ruger Red Hawk, but the Taurus is a much better concealed-carry gun than the massive Ruger. I would have to recommend the Taurus to anyone. It costs $500 and unfortunately (as I have learned) you have to ask the company to correct defects. The design though is wonderful. I now think the Tracker has to be one of the best guns for the money that you will find on the market. What a powerhouse in a concealable package. Take care. Bill


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I have a Ti 41 it works and is light weight.

The frist one I handle many moons ago locked up tighter then snot. Couldn't open the cly could not get the hammer to cock. That was just takening it out of the display case.

I think Taurus has some problems if you get a good one find but some are lacking in the qualtiy control area.
 
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My Sister In Law has one of the 5 shot Taurus 44 Mags.

I shot it quite a bit one day,and it performed perfectly, and was very accurate with my reloads from mild to full power 44 Mags with cast bullets and it shot factory 44 Mag jacketed loads just fine.
It is comfortable to shoot.

It shoots 44 Speer shotshells great, she has killed several snakes with them.

I keep her flush with 44 Mag reloads for practice, and more powerful ones for field carry.


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