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Not really to start an argument but rather to gain info . . what say ye ? .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | ||
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Have them both, and like both a lot. The JRH fits where the chunky Linebaugh doesn't (FA 83 for example). My .500 JRH BFR is one of the most accurate revolvers I have ever shot -- period. They're both good as they both make BIG holes......  Brass is easier to make in a pinch for the JRH because of the abundance of .500 Smith ammo that's floating around."Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I believe the JRH makes a marvelous sub-caliber trainer for the Linebaugh. Seriously, neither you nor any game animal is going to be able to tell any difference in performance between the two. Brass availability for the Linebaugh is much better now that Starline is producing it. Just boils down to which platform you want to use. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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How is any FA the best value when you can buy a new BFR in .500 JRH for less than a grand??  I'm confused.Why do you incessantly analyze the statements made about the 525 grain .500 Linebaugh load? I really think you need to do less thinking about this stuff and go out and shoot some game with the beautiful and expensive revolvers that you have. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Why not just go? Where doesn't matter as long as it's not here. My reference was regarding the 400 to 450 grain loads. 525s are wonderful bullets for the .500 Linebaugh. From your posts, I doubt you are knowledgeable enough about this subject matter to smell a skunk. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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What did I do??  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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No, I was just tacking onto your response to Greg. You didn't do anything and Greg doesn't appear to know anything. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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beaches of east wick... | |||
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And I know that as a participant, you are a much bigger joke. Now, slink away like you normally do, come back in a few months, discuss civilly for a couple of days, and then have another melt down. Repeat as necessary. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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The rat is you and the smell is unbearable. You do not understand how to interpret what you read. Now be off with yourself....  _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Yes, you talked to jack, and whatever....and what where Jason and Jack doing tonight, xxxxxx? Thanks you prig, Haven't talked to him in awhile, been on the phone for two hours. F.... | |||
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GS,I am not sure what the problem is but after reading your post in this discussion and in others,I believe you are a little .I began to learn more about my new hobbie years ago from Hal Swigget through an article he wrote.Since that time I learned alot trial and error.But in the last couple of years these guys you say are rude and pricks have helped me a whole lot.Saved me some time and money through their experiences(after all jwps so old he was hunting with the 475 when I was finishing highschool).Hitman,Whitworth,and jwp have helped and are not closed minded as you have said.But I'll say this,you'd better know what your talking about,cause they can sniff out a bull sh*tt*er.There have been others,Jack H,John and Dustin L,and Marshall S and Dick T have been more than helpful on several occassions.I have found that attitude says alot and determines whether you recieve help or not.If you come to a discussion with a full cup already how can anyone add to it?JMOFor the record I like the way Hitman calls people out and tells them to leave.If the goverment had of been more like that we wouldn't be in the shape we are today.Tell it like it is political correctness be damned! "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy | |||
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gumboot458,when it gets over 475 it's just prefrences in arms.Whits BFR is a nice piece and extremely accurate,but I wouldn't be afraid to tackle anything with either caliber. "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy | |||
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If you can fit a .500 Linebaugh in a 3.2 pound FA 83, let me know. Otherwise, for the ultimate packing gun, it's a JRH500, on an FA 83. | |||
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The .500 Linebaugh is too big to fit in the FA 83. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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O K . thats what I,m seeing . for the ballistic needs I have . A 425 gr bullet @1250 fps it seems the 500 JRH is the cartridge I need . I know I will shoot lots of moly coates jacketef or plated bullets in it for blastin . . The 400 gr Sierra worked awesome on a bear that charged a friend out of the 500 Smith . That bear had a 26" skull , was 26 years old and squared around 8'6" . he was pushing it with 40 gr of 296 . so the bullet was going more than 1550 when it hit the bear . basially the equivelent to a 50 Alaskan rifle @125 yards or so . The charge started @ around 30 feet at night .. it was fall and the bear didn,t have any fat on it and rotten teeth .. . I,ve shot those loads in that gun and I know they arn,t for me . but @ 12-1300 fps , a bullet that weight or a little heavier should be handleable even if my hands are tired . .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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oh and GS , I,ve had a # of tirades on different forums myself . But since ya can,t punch someone in the nose on the web , it doesn,t do much good to go around rootin an bellerin ... Maybe drink a little less coffee ..or other bevrege.. . Tho the FA M83 may be a little lighter than a Redhawk or Super Redhawk . I want a da revolver .. Depending on my $$I may get a BFR in 500 JRH .to start playing with . .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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everyone knows, my gun is better then yours!  Play nice guys. Most of us are to old to be punching people anyway. | |||
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Lloyd, you're not too old! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Again you prove it doesn't sink in when you read what is best,not most packable or practicle.
"If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy | |||
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I probably should have worded the title better . I was hopeing to learn the differences between the 2 cartridges . If $ were no object I would get one of each . . . In brown bear country we have a funny way of telling the size of a bear . Some of us do anyway . Can,t score a bear this way , but it can give you a heads up on how big the bear is that was squating where you are now standing . The size of their turds . Since most turds from brn brs wre around 2" dia. , When you come upon a fresh pile that would almost fill a 5 gal bucket and are 4" or more diameter . You know that has to be a big bear . . As I work inthe brush , I,m not out here hunting . Bumping into a bear isn,t something I want to do . But I have to be there so hopefully the bears will vacate the area while I/ we work . A big pistol is needed when a bear decides they don,t want to leave and possibly think we are an easy meal . As one USFS Wildlife Biologist told me ," perhaps the bears consider YOU a food source ." .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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Gumboot: Actually, it was productive, since I've been putting off dealing with the presses anyway, and this whole thing got me started on it. Plus, if JWP was on the phone with JRH, then I knew he was up, and, I don't like to call late, and wake him up. He goes to bed earlier then I do. Back to guns. I don't see the .500JRH listed on the website, yet, but, give MR a call, and find out. Seems it's the best of all, now, since it's 17-4, built like a tank, and takes Ruger parts. Around here I've found one BFR in .475, and the shop wanted 1000 dollars for it, used. I've had much better luck with my local shop, and getting great deals on FA 83's. Awhile back, on another forum, a guy bought a custom shop .500JRH from MR. By the time it was done, he had nearly 2 grand in the gun. What I've found is getting the FA 83 for about 800-1000, and, having JRH convert it, for around 500-600 dollars gives me a custom built FA by JRH, for less money then a new .500WE. Better trigger, too. Even better is finding a couple guns, for under 1000 each, already converted. Just saw your Double action requirement. For last ditch defense, loaded with .500JRH:   Here is another .500JRH snubbie:  And a .500 Linebaugh    | |||
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Don't like being called a liar by these two moderators. How would you feel? It's different to be wrong. I am a lot around here, since these guys know their stuff. I have my experiences, that doesn't make them bull s... They have more experience then I do, but, that's no excuse for their ad homs. | |||
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gumboot, Magnum Research announced the .500 JRH as part of their regular lineup of cartidges at the SHOT show this last month and even had one on display. It is not on the website yet, but they are updating that soon. It is in their new catalog. It is a regular production item now. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Gumboot: David Clay rifle converted to .500JRH   | |||
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If you are going DA, the SRH might be the way to go. This is an older letter, but, it addresses some issues you might have:     | |||
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Nice collection of firearms. "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy | |||
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Not to start a Hatfield and McCoy Fued... But when everything is considered, when I wanted more "thunp" than a 44 Mag I went with a FA in 475 Linebaugh. My thoughts were; The FA is one of the strongest if not the strongest revolvers. They are accurate. The 475 gives about the perfect balance between "thump" and penetration. Ammo, cases and bullets easy to find, as is factory ammo. If you are on the road, cannot find any 475L ammo sometimes you can find 480 Ruger. I think it was the best choice for me... I just wish Speer made shotshells for the 480/475, with No 7.5, or No6 shot. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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There was no feud, just a childish meltdown and temper tantrum last night and very early this morning. You give sound reasons for YOUR CHOICE of revolver and caliber. Nothing to fight over here as far as I'm concerned. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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NE 450 No.2; Also a fan of the 475. For shot shells, cut down 410 wads, 45-70 brass, top with a 45 Gas Check inverted. Seal a/r. Cut most of the piston off the wad for more shot. | |||
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I too am a great fan of the .475, but I like the .50 cals even better! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Thanks for the info. I would have to lessen the diameter of the 45/70 rim as well, but that is no big deal. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Whitworth; I love the 500L. A really fine man who knows them better than any one here said: The 475 is more versital. But the 500 is like that Red Headed Stepchild that you just love for its wonderful "personality". . I have the cylinder done for my Max. I just have shot the 475 more. . The 500L can be mild to shoot......or ....HELLS COMING TO BREAKFAST!!!! . What's not to love?????? | |||
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But for someone who is considering both (500 JRH and 500 Linebaugh), as loaded by the factories, how do they compare? Landrum | |||
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Well, I know of two manufacturers of .500 Linebaugh ammo, and those two maufactuers also load for the .500 JRH. How do they compare? The JRH ammo is loaded hotter -- it has a higher operating pressure. I have tested nearly all of Grizzly Ammo's .500 JRH offerings and if I can recall, the worst group I shot at 50-yards went about 1 1/4-inches. Great ammo. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Looks like I might have to get one of those! I love my 475 but that 500 is awful tempting. | |||
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They SELL 500 Linebaugh ammo??????????? . Like you mean store bought???????? . it was something in the early days to find good bullets. It was easier to cast. . Ain't this a great forum for info. | |||
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Sold my Linebaugh 500 when I got my first S&W 500 in 2003 never looked back-- brass availability etc etc DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I've never seen much point in the .500 S&W, but that is the reason so many cartridges are available. I prefer the ease of packing of my Bisleys over the X-frame any day ending in "y". If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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