Now that Ruger stopped makeing the best caliber revolver ,480 Ruger .,I,m thinking of haveing GNR make up a 480 Ruger on my 45 Colt Blackhawk., Just wondering about any satisfied customers ...Thank You ., gumboot..

You are going to think I'm crazy and maybe I am but I wouldn't have one of his guns if he gave me one. I am not going to support a porn site and gun site combined.
You may be able too but my ethics won't let me. If buying one from him was the only way I could get a gun I would take up fishing or archery.

Me_Plat,

Would you be so kind as to inform us of the location of any pornography on Reeder's site. I have not seen any on his site and am curious as to what I may be missing. I'm sure there are others interested to know what evil lurks on that particular site as well.

I have seen references to Gary Reeder being the "porn star" of custom pistolsmiths; however, I believe this is due to his self-promotion and what some may consider a flamboyant lifestyle.

I would be interested too. I have seen some of his guns, and I know that he uses laser engraving that some might think rather flashy, but porn? Where? Obviously some field work needs to be done here!
Peter.

ROB:

I figured you would challenge me on what I said. If you will go to the forum or question and answer section of his website you will see naked pics of women and the most foul and vulgar language you will find.
That is what I call porn or in other words very distasteful trash that should not be on a site concerning guns. We gun owners should be very careful how we present ourselves to the public as a whole. There are enough gun haters etc. out there without acting like a bunch of low moral, no ethic individuals.
Maybe I was wrong to use the word porn but since I am not as educated as you since you know alot about alot of things let me change the descriptive words to filth and trashy instead of porn.

To get back on topic!!! I have had Gary build me two handguns, a .41GNR#2 Contender and a SBH Duel cylinder 5 shooter in .41RemMag and .41GNR. You can see the SBH on his Special Guns page, the last one on that page but the first ever posted there. He named that gun "The Green Machine". As for the experience of a Reeder gun, it was first rate. I got just what I wanted the way I wanted it. You will find that there are just as many detractors here of Gary as there are those who are supporters. I'd have another built any time.

MePlat, the only "porn" at Reeder's site is the occasional use of a 4 letter word. If you are so offended by that, then I suggest that you don't go there. I have 3 encore barrels Gary made and am getting a 510 GNR revolver made as we speak. I have handled and shot many of his guns, and feel the quality is superb. Please post a link to the naked woman pictures, I can't find any.

Tembo, that is exactly what MePlat said...he would not go there. It seems to me to be perfectly appropriate to say that while he may make fine guns, and the quality superb, there are plenty of other people who also make superb quality guns and, for other reasons, MePlat chooses not to do business with Gary Reeder. I too have a hard time with people who seem to be unable to communicate without using 4 letter words.
Peter.

I said what I had to say and that is that. I too had to make a decision on going to that site myself. I used to like to go to it and read the stuff he and his chronies posted but I thought is this really the way to behave. Is this really the way one should spend his time?
I choose to be seperate from the trash and filth now and am glad to have made that decision.
If you have been on his ask reeder section of the website you will know what I am talking about.
This is it for me so asking me anymore questions will not do any good. I am not going to debate morality etc. with anyone on here as I have to answer for myself and you guys have to answer for yourselves too.
Enough said.

Rob: If you have anything else to say to me do it by PM or forget it.

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Originally posted by Me_Plat:
I said what I had to say and that is that. I too had to make a decision on going to that site myself. I used to like to go to it and read the stuff he and his chronies posted but I thought is this really the way to behave. Is this really the way one should spend his time?
I choose to be seperate from the trash and filth now and am glad to have made that decision.
If you have been on his ask reeder section of the website you will know what I am talking about.
This is it for me so asking me anymore questions will not do any good. I am not going to debate morality etc. with anyone on here as I have to answer for myself and you guys have to answer for yourselves too.
Enough said.

Rob: If you have anything else to say to me do it by PM or forget it.

Fair enough.

I had him build me his Ultimate 44 years ago when it was chambered in 440 Corbon. The gun would jam using factory Corbon ammo, he approved me getting 4 port magnaporting then didn't know how to regulate the factory sights. He tried to talk me into converting it to a 44 mag because he couldn't get the 440 to work without reducing the velocity down to 44 mag levels. In the end, I received a full refund. I would also add that the trigger job he performed on the gun was the worse I ever felt. I do like his grip frames however. they are very comfortable.
He didn't bore his own 5 shot cylinders back then, and therefore didn't line bore.
I would use David Clements myself. He is a true craftsman. I have one of David's guns in 500 Linebaugh and really like it.

dougm, your judging a man by what his talent USED to be and quite frankly...there are damned few gunsmiths of any caliber that give a lifetime warranty on the gun...your life or the next guys for that matter. His work is as good as any pistolsmith out there. I have revolvers done by Gary and Bowen, have shot/handled other smiths revolvers too so I know what I am talking about. I guess by me_plat's opinion I am a Reeder chrony..so be it. I go there to learn stuff and help others at the same time, just like I do here. I have to wade thru nonsense there, just like I do here. I have to read immoral shit posted by assholes there...just like I do here. Yes, there are a few naked ladies on there on Fridays posted by the guys, but you don't have to open the link to them. Thats a choice you make. Is his site any better or worse that this one here...no way. I have learned a lot there, just as I have here. There is one difference however...Gary does not tolerate one poster attacking another...no matter how many guns you bought from him. Like everyone else, he has a few things about him to be desired...but overall, he is a good guy. Me_Plat, I doubt we will ever miss you as a poster...there or here!

Well Me_Plat,

I did not see any naked women, but I agree there are some threads on the discussion pages I just don't see myself getting involved in. You set your hackels down. I wasn't challenging you this morning, just asking; even did it nicely.

I won't fault you for your opinion, but you don't rate special PMs just to communicate on forum discussions.

gunboot, go talk to Jack Huntington. He also builds custom revolvers, and from what I understand, his shop produces nice custom rifles as well. He's converting my SRH in .480 to a .475 Linebaugh. I too am a fan of the .480 but wanted the option of shooting heavier bullets.

I've seen some of Reeder's work and it looks to me like it's of a high quality.

Woodrow,

I'm going to ask you real nice to tone down your message and quit your attack. Attacking other posters isn't going to be tolerated over on this board when I see it either. Me_Plat voiced his opinion about the content of the website and that he could not support Reeder for the reasons he stated. That's his choice and he even stated it as such.

Most all of us have revolvers customized from one or more pistolsmiths and have shot other's work. We all have our own ideas about what we like/want in a custom revolver.

Advice well taken. Thanks for being a fair moderator for everyones benefit.

Woodrow, I don't think you understand, It had nothing to do with a life time warranty. The gun Reeder built jammed right from new. In fact it jammed before he sent it to me. He called me and told me that he couldn't make it work and that it would be better to change to a .44 mag. Then he told me he was going to ask another smith about it and see if he could fix it. In the end he shipped it to me as it was. The problem with the pistol was right from the beginning not some time later.
I just want to say that the man asked for "opinions" that means good and bad. I have custom pistols by Bowen, Clements, Linebaugh, Stroh, and that one by Reeder. IMO Reeder's work is not in the same league as the others. He did do the right thing and return my money, and I do think his grip designs are great.

I just wanted to put in a vote for naked women and 4 letter words. Anyone who thinks 4 letter words don't best describe or connote certain situations just doesn't know how the language is used. As for naked women......

doug, yes I do understand and I know the lifetime warranty stuff does not enter into the detail surrounding your gun. I stated the LT warranty because thats what you get with his guns...anyone can screw up but he makes it right the best way he can no matter what, just like you experienced. Hell, even if its your fault he will take care of it most of the time. How many smiths give that service? Again, not to be argumentative, but you are still comparing his earlier work with others more current work. Everyone gets better as time goes on. Gary does his guns in a certain manner to give you a quality piece without waiting a year or more for it, whereas others may give you some more intricate work and detail...at a higher cost of course, but your on a long list. I like my Bowen Bisley and multiple Reeder guns equally...they are the best ones I ever owned. And yes I know there are other talented smiths, but lets not give more credit than they deserve...we all have our favorite guy.

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Anyone who thinks 4 letter words don't best describe or connote certain situations just doesn't know how the language is used

well, the next time you go to the bank, level a few of the choicer words found on Reeder's site at the teller.

The guy's conducting business, and not in a way I'd find confidence-inspiring.

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Originally posted by tin can:

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Anyone who thinks 4 letter words don't best describe or connote certain situations just doesn't know how the language is used

well, the next time you go to the bank, level a few of the choicer words found on Reeder's site at the teller.

The guy's conducting business, and not in a way I'd find confidence-inspiring.

That is VERY interesting coming from someone who used "Kicks their lazy ass" in his signature line. Try that one the next time you visit your local bank.

The best thing about conducting your own American business.............you get to do it any way you want to. All I can say is there are no starving pistolsmiths that I know of. All of the top tier guys make spectacular revolvers. Pick two of the top guys out and run your idea by them, then settle on the one you feel most comfortable with.

Gary's work is pretty good....not on par with Bowen, Linebaugh, or Clements, but his prices are lower and his turnaround is shorter.

Lee Martin
www.singleactions.com

Does Dave Clements have a website? I've searched, but can't find one......

Yes, www.clementscustomguns.com

..............I really appreciate all the replies...Well the argueing gets old but,.,. thats just the way these things go..... His grip shape definately caught my eye and other things...Not neked ladies ,.,. but 8 "barreled revolvers... I thot about haveing it built up as a 475 Linebaugh .,., But am not so sure about opening up the cylinder wondow,,,,,,..The 480 is a great round and with 400or 410 gr bullets it is a great combo of killing ability and shootablity... Penetrates real deep also .... Thanks again.. gumboot458.

Thanks for posting the web address, MS.

Gumboot, opening up the window is no big deal as it does not hurt the integrity of the frame as long as you operate within the pressures the round/revolver was built for. This has been tested thoroughly by John Linebaugh and Hamilton Bowen long ago and is an accepted practice by pretty much any smith that builds a 5-shot cylinder for any of the big bore calibers. You still need to open the window whether you chamber for the 480 or 475L since both will be a large 5-shot cylinder. If you chamber for the 480, you can't shoot 475's. If you chamber for the 475L you can shoot either of them. It does not make sense to chamber for the 480 only...but its your custom gun. Only wanting to help out here. BTW, the 475L is a great do it all cartridge.

And I will add, that if one reloads; there is absolutely no reason to shoot .480 rounds at all. The .475 Linebaugh works well across the whole velocity spectrum.

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
And I will add, that if one reloads; there is absolutely no reason to shoot .480 rounds at all. The .475 Linebaugh works well across the whole velocity spectrum.

+1

Gary did this .41 Magnum/.41 GNR for me back in 2000. No complaints with the workmanship or the price, that was 1/3+ less than any other of the big name smiths quoted me at the time...and I didn't have to wait a year plus to get it. Worst thing I can say about the gun was that the trigger pull while light, was not crisp.




Bob Makowski

Bob, very nice revolver and I like the duel cylinder concept. What is there not to like about that revolver. Thanks for posting the picture. Yes, you can't beat Gary's prices, turn around time or his lifetime no hassle warrantee.

I went to his web site, I did not see any naked women.

What is the problem???

An AR member sent me a link to his site.
There is some naked women there.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
An AR member sent me a link to his site.
There is some naked women there.

..and you didn't even forward it to me...some partner you are.

Bob

There is a Gary Reeder gun for sale at Hallowells. It is a 475 Linebaugh for $1575. Looks attractive!
Gary Reeder African Hunter .475 Linebaugh $1,575

6" barrel. White-outline adjustable rear sight. 5-shot cylinder. Satin stainless.

Polished Bisley-style hammer and trigger. Laser-engraved with African

animal heads. Smooth black micarta Bisley-style round-butt grips. New in

box
Peter.

They look like nice handguns to me. Would love to try one out.

Whitworth, I guess that is the question...How do they shoot? Has anyone answered that? We know that FAs shoot.
Peter.

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Originally posted by Peter:
Whitworth, I guess that is the question...How do they shoot? Has anyone answered that? We know that FAs shoot.
Peter.

...just fine. These were THE first rounds to be fired from the gun...and they were not exactly target velocity loads. And this was offhand, not from a bench. The bullet goes where the sights were when the hammer drops.

Bob

Can't argue with that! Gotta say that it looks good too......