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You may need to turen the necks on the cut down 500 S&W brass to allow for the bullet inorder to not bulge the case. Check them to be sure

Interesting thought. I wish I had a case to see where the thickness starts. I don't think the S&W case is any different then the JRH but it is worth looking at.
I know Linebaugh brass can't take a long boolit. It has different parent brass.

I hope Doubless doesn't think I am rubbing him the wrong way but I get tons of resistance about revolvers.
When someone asks a question, say about leading just after the forcing cone and I say the boolit is skidding too far and the boolit needs to be harder or tougher, 20 guys post to make the boolit softer so it "obturates." When a boolit is already over groove size, why does it need to expand to obturate???
Some suggest so soft the whole boolit will slump so far the grease grooves are smashed away and the nose is set back into another shape, also making the boolit very short.
Same with replacing a cylinder pin. Guys buy an over size pin and fit it so tight it would gall without lube. Then they find the gun is not as accurate as it was.
If all of you notice, hardly a single shooter thinks about twist rates and boolit match with the needed velocity.
The revolver is easy to understand but is the biggest cause of friction there is. There are things that you CAN'T do.

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Originally posted by bfrshooter:

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You may need to turen the necks on the cut down 500 S&W brass to allow for the bullet inorder to not bulge the case. Check them to be sure

Interesting thought. I wish I had a case to see where the thickness starts. I don't think the S&W case is any different then the JRH but it is worth looking at.
I know Linebaugh brass can't take a long boolit. It has different parent brass.

You should have a whole lot of spent brass.....It is based on the .500 Smith case.

The Linebaugh case is basically a cut down .348.

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Originally posted by bfrshooter:

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You may need to turen the necks on the cut down 500 S&W brass to allow for the bullet inorder to not bulge the case. Check them to be sure

Interesting thought. I wish I had a case to see where the thickness starts. I don't think the S&W case is any different then the JRH but it is worth looking at.
I know Linebaugh brass can't take a long boolit. It has different parent brass.

THe differrence is in the length of the case and the diameter of the rim

I don't have an actual .500 S&W case!

I had a 500 S&W case that the mouth crumpled while seating a bullet. I cut it way short and used a dial caliper to measure the wall thickness. The brass started to get thicker at around .9" from the rim. So that would give us a max bullet base/body of .5" for cut down S&W cases.

I called Huntington today about the JRH brass, it's only $.42 ea. I'm going to send in an order for 500 to have a good supply of all the same lot.

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Originally posted by Lar45:

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Originally posted by Onty:
My apology for being pushy but I would like to know what is for 500 JRH in BFR max. theoretical length of loaded round, measuring from the bottom of the case to the front face of the cylinder?

Thanks again.

My 475 BFR's cylinder is 1.845"
With a fired case in, it is 1.858" from the rim to the front of the cylinder.
If I remember right the 50AE cylinder was the same length, I would bet the 500JRH cylinder will be the same also.
Hopefully mine will get here tomorrow. I'll cut down some 500 S&W cases to get me started, but order some JRH brass.(thanks for the info)

THANKS Lar!!!

I was going by JWP's comment on turning or reaming the brass.
I know the JRH is based on S&W brass. I do not know if there is a thickness difference at a different point when the JRH brass is made.
Then John came back and said only the rim and length so why did he say anything about turning?
It gives some thought because I have nothing to compare so I figured he knew something I didn't.
What good would it do the measure JRH brass if John says S&W brass is thicker? Why throw a wrench in the pot?
Go back and read what he said.

Actually, the .500 JRH has different internal thickness than commercial .500 Smith brass. So, it is thicker through the taper area. That said, you can cut down some S&W brass and not run into trouble loading long (heavy) bullets. But, the commercial Starline JRH brass is really thick and heavy.

That makes more sense.

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Originally posted by bfrshooter:
I was going by JWP's comment on turning or reaming the brass.
I know the JRH is based on S&W brass. I do not know if there is a thickness difference at a different point when the JRH brass is made.
Then John came back and said only the rim and length so why did he say anything about turning?
It gives some thought because I have nothing to compare so I figured he knew something I didn't.
What good would it do the measure JRH brass if John says S&W brass is thicker? Why throw a wrench in the pot?
Go back and read what he said.

Since the S&W round is about .200" longer than the 500 JRH, why would you assume that the case is not thicker in the lower portion of the S&W case?

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Since the S&W round is about .200" longer than the 500 JRH, why would you assume that the case is not thicker in the lower portion of the S&W case?

Because I don't know! I have no brass for the S&W.
You brought it up and made me wonder but I can't answer that.
I can not tell anyone that the .500 JRH case is the same as the .500 S&W even if the JRH is based on the S&W. I don't know the difference between Starline JRH brass, Huntington's brass and .500 S&W brass.
I am listening to all of you with conflicting measurements.

To quote my brother's favorite line: "Dammit, Jim!"

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To quote my brother's favorite line: "Dammit, Jim!"

Now just how did you know my name is Jim????

I am psychotic...errr... I mean psychic. Yeah: psychic; that's the right word.

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Originally posted by Doubless:
To quote my brother's favorite line: "Dammit, Jim!"

Often heard on Star Trek.......

Also often heard in bfrshooter's household......

Now that's funny, Marko!

You both are wrong. When Carol yells, it is "JAMES."

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You both are wrong. When Carol yells, it is "JAMES."

You are correct, I have heard her on more than a few occasions rip into you.