I have long been a fan of the 41 Magnum and hunt with a very accurate Ruger. I was thinking of adding a single action 10MM autoloader for the same purpose and I've been reviewing what's out there.

Has anyone got direct experience with the EAA Witness Hunter in 10MM or any other caliber? I know Nighthawk, Kimber and some others make first class 10MM pistols but I'm trying to stay in the $1000 dollar range and I'm pretty set on a single action and a 6" barrel. Tks in advance.

Harry,
Jana took my eaa away from me, after shooting it ... it had taken hogs, blackbuck does, any number of varmits, cans, bricks, and bottles..

i flat out love it.. but it is NOT the hunter model

Thanks, Jeff. Never heard any complaints about them! The main difference on the Hunter is the 6" barrel and single action trigger. Otherwise the same gun.

Not the Hunter, but I own an EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. I have close to max. very accurate loads for both 200 grain lead and 200 grain JFP bullets. If you are interested you can search this forum for targets and loads. I love the gun! Doesn't help if you are fixed on the 6" barrel!
Peter.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Harry,
Jana took my eaa away from me, after shooting it ... it had taken hogs, blackbuck does, any number of varmits, cans, bricks, and bottles..

i flat out love it.. but it is NOT the hunter model

Thank God you didn't shoot any elk with it! Just don't know if vapodog or SGraves155 could have stood it.

Id love to see kimber come out with a 10mm 1911 commander sized gun with ajustable sights. Now that would be a trail gun.

A friend shoots Double Tap hot stuff through his aftermarket-barrelled Glock and loves it. I think he has less than $800 in the gun.

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Originally posted by Lloyd Smale:
Id love to see kimber come out with a 10mm 1911 commander sized gun with ajustable sights. Now that would be a trail gun.

Kimber did make the Eclipse in a Commander size pistol for a few years. When I bought my Stainless Target I went back in the following week and the dealer had both the full size Eclipse and Commander size sitting on the shelf. If only I had waited.

To the OP I have heard many great things about the Witness 10mm. You will love the 10mm.
Another option would be the S&W 610 in a wheel gun. I think they make them in 4", 6", and 8".

You could try Fusion. I have no experience with them but they are cool looking. These are in the $1295 and up range.

Thanks for the tips and opinions all! Rich, that Fusion is pretty slick. I've always had a soft spot for long slides. And I see the Fusion comes as a kit...that's tempting!

It's been a whole month. Did you pick up 10mm?

Rich

Had one of these for awhile--shot good.
Not an S/A though.

http://www.eaa-guns.com/item/2...SS_HUNTER_10MM_.aspx

Is a Glock 10mm definitely out of the picture?

If not I know that a lot of the horse people here in Idaho are starting to pack these when they go into the primitive area. Light weight and lots of rounds make them popular when the expectations are for bear, wolves, and cougars around the horses.

I have always liked my AMT longslide 45.
Here's a 7" 10mm for $750

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=220445957

Rich/Teancum Fusion also makes a long slide kit with the STI high capacity frame. A little more money but I get to stay with the 1911 platform. Gotta wait until I finish paying 2010 taxes next month, though.

That EAA gun also comes in a single-action only 6" model. That's my fall-back option.

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Originally posted by richj:
You could try Fusion. I have no experience with them but they are cool looking. These are in the $1295 and up range.

That's a gorgeous piece!

Here's the wide body version. As you can see, it has many of the new "stealth technology" parts incorporated into it:

Wow, that's really nice, too!

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Originally posted by Lar45:
I have always liked my AMT longslide 45.
Here's a 7" 10mm for $750

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=220445957

Some of the AMTs are really good pistols but I'm not a fan pof stainless.

And some of the AMTs were not very good.

What do those wide body Fusions run?
Peter.

Completed pistols start around $1800. The $1195.00 kit includes the following:

"This high quality kit comes with the following:
- Fitted frame & Slide
-Custom Flat top slide with rear Sure-Grip cocking serrations
-Lowered and Relieved ejection port
-Frame milled for Fusion, STI, Wilson barrel ramp cut
-Fitted ramped match barrel, barrel link and link pin
-Fitted stainless steel 400 Series heat-treated barrel bushing
-Fitted slide stop
-Extended Ejector installed
-Plunger tube installed
-Recoil system with full length guide rod, recoil spring and cap
- Undercut trigger-guard
- Checkered front strap Polymer grip lower
-Beveled magazine well
-.25 Radius cut for high-ride beavertail
-Rear Sight cuts (Novak or Bomar style)
-.330 x 65 deg x .070 front sight cut
-All parts matte bead blast finished"

You have to furnish all the small parts and magazines.

The 1911 frame models are several hundred less.

They certainly look good, but that's a little rich for my blood
Thanks, Peter.

The long slide feature really drives the price up. They have some really nice standard 1911s at better prices but not Taurus-level pricing. Nothing wrong with a PT 1911 either; I have one. But these are hand-fitted full customs and pretty reasonable for that level of handgun. Nighthawk gets a thousand more for their basic longslide. Darn things are getting expensive, for sure.

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Here's a 7" 10mm for $750

Somebody bought that baby for $849!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=220445957

Way more than I would ever pay for an IAI/AMT!
I'd rather rake up some extra pennies and spring for a Dan Wesson. Maybe even a Colt. But not a longslide anything.

I have one of the better IAI's in 10mm. It is a great shooter and I didn't give half of what they paid for it, but wouldn't take twice that for it either.

The long slide is great for hunting and the SS doesn't make it much more weight, and it has burnished in well through the years. I couldn't even begin to count how many rounds have been through it, but it still rocks right on along with any loads I put through it.

If your looking for a TRUE hunting pistol go for the longer barrel and be happy. You will get better velocity with the heavier bullets, and the recoil is somewhat cut down by the added length, and weight.

Of course now that I see the Fusion, I might have to start saving up for one.

Agreed. I has an AMT in 30 Carbine. Nice gun and quite accurate. I just did not use it much and so I sold it. Not a reflection on the gun at all.
Peter.

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Originally posted by Peter:
Agreed. I has an AMT in 30 Carbine. Nice gun and quite accurate. I just did not use it much and so I sold it. Not a reflection on the gun at all.
Peter.

I almost bought one of those and am sorry I didn't.

I had a AMT in 30 carbine.. I think that was the loudest pistol I ever had.Even with ear plugs and muffs it was nasty.It shot decent,but the noise made it so unpleasant to shoot ,that it went down the road.

Ditto for the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. Easily the most accurate caliber they chamber but also the loudest. WONDERFUL fireball at the muzzle, too!

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Originally posted by Mke / Tx:
I have one of the better IAI's in 10mm. It is a great shooter and I didn't give half of what they paid for it, but wouldn't take twice that for it either.

The long slide is great for hunting and the SS doesn't make it much more weight, and it has burnished in well through the years. I couldn't even begin to count how many rounds have been through it, but it still rocks right on along with any loads I put through it.

If your looking for a TRUE hunting pistol go for the longer barrel and be happy. You will get better velocity with the heavier bullets, and the recoil is somewhat cut down by the added length, and weight.

Of course now that I see the Fusion, I might have to start saving up for one.

I think you nailed it about the longslide. It's a hunting pistol pure and simple. No point in trying to consider any compromise as a carry gun too.

Anyone have a 10MM Mag? I've had a half dozen 10's but never fired the Magnum.

The AMT 30 carbine pistol I shot galled so bad it wouldn't shoot more the 3 rounds at a time before jamming.

I really like my glock 20 SF (short frame, better for my small hands) + a 20 lbs. recoil spring and better sights.

They seem to be one of the most durable 10mm's made, and 15+1 rounds ain't bad at all!

I shoot my g17 and g19 for practice. B)

Glocks are good, just don't try to "hot rod" the 10mm. The Glocks do not have a ramped barrel as I recollect. Isn't the SF rather a handful in 10mm?
Peter.

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Originally posted by Peter:
Glocks are good, just don't try to "hot rod" the 10mm. The Glocks do not have a ramped barrel as I recollect. Isn't the SF rather a handful in 10mm?
Peter.

Simple if you want to "hot rod", just add a heavier recoil spring and an aftermarket barrel.

Just like how 10mm 1911's need heavier recoil springs, ramped barrels, and maybe an over-sized firing pin stop for the hot stuff.

The glock 20 and glock 21 both come in SF configuration (Short Frame, not to be confused with their "Slim Line" g36). The only difference between them are the backstrap area is reduced (mostly empty space there anyway). Capacity is same and weighs probably too close to count.



Edit: I meant oversized firing pin stop, not slide stop. Brain fart hehehe..

Ah! I though you meant the Glock 30SF which is available in 45ACP and 10mm I believe.
Peter.

Peter, check your PMs.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:

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Originally posted by Lar45:
I have always liked my AMT longslide 45.
Here's a 7" 10mm for $750

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=220445957

Some of the AMTs are really good pistols but I'm not a fan pof stainless.

wow, i am GLAD i didn't see this when the auction was running .. dang, i love 10mm
... almost as much as 45LC

I have heard the EAA aren't very good
I had a Dan Wesson Razorback and I picked it up for bought 850.00