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thanks for the link Witworth . and the info . I think I will start a new thread .


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So, the case size difference between the .475 and .500JRH, and the .500 Linebaugh, and .500 Maximum have nothing to do with how well the primers work? With the same logic, I'll be using
why not use Winchester pistol primers in my .375 H&H?



You do realize don't you that most 1000 yard BR shooters use large rifle match promers instead of magnum match primers, don't you?

The reason is because the less violent ignition gives a more consistent load with a lower extereme spread and SD

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Oh get over yourself. The .475 and .500JRH are far less finicky then the .500 Linebaugh to reload for, and you and I both know it.
 
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So, the case size difference between the .475 and .500JRH, and the .500 Linebaugh, and .500 Maximum have nothing to do with how well the primers work? With the same logic, I'll be using
why not use Winchester pistol primers in my .375 H&H?



You do realize don't you that most 1000 yard BR shooters use large rifle match promers instead of magnum match primers, don't you?

The reason is because the less violent ignition gives a more consistent load with a lower extereme spread and SD

tu2


Oh get over yourself. The .475 and .500JRH are far less finicky then the .500 Linebaugh to reload for, and you and I both know it.


Get over yourself. There's nothing particularly finicky about any of them. So what in the world are you talking about?



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About the only thing worse than a wannabe lawyer or a wannabe reloader is someone who is both wannabe squared. .500 Linebaugh finicky to reload; maybe you need to crawl back under that rock and study law some more. Or better yet, go get some experience before you come back here acting like you know what you are talking about.



If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.
 
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About the only thing worse than a wannabe lawyer or a wannabe reloader is someone who is both wannabe squared. .500 Linebaugh finicky to reload; maybe you need to crawl back under that rock and study law some more. Or better yet, go get some experience before you come back here acting like you know what you are talking about.



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Why? You wouldn't have a life if you didn't have someone to abuse. Pretty clear from looking at how you treat anyone that isn't part of the group.

The Jersey Shores of gun forums.

I don't see any posts about the .475 or .500JRH
not working with a certain primer, in certain weather conditions, or, better with some powders in certain temperatures then others.
 
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Why? You wouldn't have a life if you didn't have someone to abuse. Pretty clear from looking at how you treat anyone that isn't part of the group.

The Jersey Shores of gun forums.

I don't see any posts about the .475 or .500JRH
not working with a certain primer, in certain weather conditions, or, better with some powders in certain temperatures then others.


The purpose of this forum is to exchange ideas among people who either have a modicum of common sense and experience, or to pass on knowledge to those who wish to learn. So far, you have exhibited neither trait. No one whistled you up to be the abuse dummy; so don't even go with the unfair treatment. CRYBABY



If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.
 
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It's pretty clear your an abusive idiot(corrected for children) that uses his position as a forum 'moderator' to attack anyone you don't like, or, doesn't fit into your little in group.

I know you know more about this stuff then I do, and, if you were half civil, you'd have my respect. But, your just a bunch of abusive who have to prove how much more you know about everything then anyone, even experienced rifle hunters.

Sad part is, you DO know more about this stuff then most, but, your such pricks no wants to talk to you. Must get lonely on that island, .

My kids reads these posts with me. Edited for language content.
 
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Why? You wouldn't have a life if you didn't have someone to abuse. Pretty clear from looking at how you treat anyone that isn't part of the group.

The Jersey Shores of gun forums.

I don't see any posts about the .475 or .500JRH
not working with a certain primer, in certain weather conditions, or, better with some powders in certain temperatures then others.



Thanks for proving my point, A man that doesn't reload or realy know what the hell he is talking about, and just keeps on and on with BS and more BS

I know for a fact that you have not reloaded any ammo and do not have a clue about what you are spouting off

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It's pretty clear your an abusive that uses his position as a forum 'moderator' to attack anyone you don't like, or, doesn't fit into your little in group.

I know you know more about this stuff then I do, and, if you were half civil, you'd have my respect. But, your just a bunch of abusive who have to prove how much more you know about everything then anyone, even experienced rifle hunters.

Sad part is, you DO know more about this stuff then most, but, your such pricks no wants to talk to you. Must get lonely on that island, .

My kids reads these posts with me. Edited for language content.


Wow. Considering the abuse you heap on people that post here, I'm amazed you one, have kids, and two, that you think your behavior in this forum is suitable reading for a child.
 
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Actually, we have discussed at length the use of large rifle and pistol primers in the .475 Linebaugh as it still has the carry-over LRP pocket from its parent case, the .45/70.

Now, you come here to the Handgun HUNTING forum, and argue with folks about HUNTING topics, even after admitting to never having killed an animal with a handgun. Am I missing something?

Sober up.



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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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Why? You wouldn't have a life if you didn't have someone to abuse. Pretty clear from looking at how you treat anyone that isn't part of the group.

The Jersey Shores of gun forums.

I don't see any posts about the .475 or .500JRH
not working with a certain primer, in certain weather conditions, or, better with some powders in certain temperatures then others.



Thanks for proving my point, A man that doesn't reload or realy know what the hell he is talking about, and just keeps on and on with BS and more BS

I know for a fact that you have not reloaded any ammo and do not have a clue about what you are spouting off

tu2

Then your an idiot. Call Jack, ask him if he watched me load stuff, in his shop, and, he can tell you I'm a nubbie, rookie, idiot, whatever.

None the less, I have loaded ammo in his shop.

And thanks, you just put a bunch of other garbage I've put off dealing with at the top of my list.
 
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It's pretty clear your an abusive that uses his position as a forum 'moderator' to attack anyone you don't like, or, doesn't fit into your little in group.

I know you know more about this stuff then I do, and, if you were half civil, you'd have my respect. But, your just a bunch of abusive who have to prove how much more you know about everything then anyone, even experienced rifle hunters.

Sad part is, you DO know more about this stuff then most, but, your such pricks no wants to talk to you. Must get lonely on that island, .

My kids reads these posts with me. Edited for language content.


Wow. Considering the abuse you heap on people that post here, I'm amazed you one, have kids, and two, that you think your behavior in this forum is suitable reading for a child.


Even my six year old knows enough to keep his mouth shut and listen when he doesn't know what is going on. He also knows better than to argue with someone who has a better grasp of the situation or more knowledge.



If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.
 
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I listen to you jerks, all the time, even when you 're wrong. Being an opinionated I've told you about this language seems to go with being a gun crank. EVERYONE thinks their solution is the ONLY solution. This may be true, but I'm open to something reasonable, or based in reality.

However, I respect that.
 
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This may be true, but I'm open to something reasonable, or based in reality.

However, I respect that.



You are not open to anything but your own misconseptions

How could you reconize reality in "never never land"

tu2


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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
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Actually, the letters in red are mine jwp. Just a bit of editing license there.



If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.
 
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Actually, the letters in red are mine jwp. Just a bit of editing license there.


Out of respect to JRH, I have no comment.
 
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It's pretty clear your an abusive that uses his position as a forum 'moderator' to attack anyone you don't like, or, doesn't fit into your little in group.

I know you know more about this stuff then I do, and, if you were half civil, you'd have my respect. But, your just a bunch of abusive who have to prove how much more you know about everything then anyone, even experienced rifle hunters.

Sad part is, you DO know more about this stuff then most, but, your such pricks no wants to talk to you. Must get lonely on that island, .

My kids reads these posts with me. Edited for language content.


Wow. Considering the abuse you heap on people that post here, I'm amazed you one, have kids, and two, that you think your behavior in this forum is suitable reading for a child.


Even my six year old knows enough to keep his mouth shut and listen when he doesn't know what is going on. He also knows better than to argue with someone who has a better grasp of the situation or more knowledge.


Great thing about then net, and phones: you can call experts, like John Linebaugh, JRH, HBowen, an either ask them or write them, and, get great answers. I do that. How about you>
 
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Actually, the letters in red are mine jwp. Just a bit of editing license there.


Out of respect to JRH, I have no comment.

So, it's 1:50AM. I spent the time since assbite said he was talking to JRH,talking to JRH.

So, we establish you are lieing, bullshitting, MF assholes. F... yourself.



You're in California and 2 hours behind my time and your post was posted at 11:55PM my time therefore it's only 9:55 PM where you are, so who is lieing???


Oh, so you got caught bullsh....G?
 
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He can be but he's honest and knowledgeble and what he don't know he goes and learns and does stuff himself.He refutes the saying old dogs can't learn new tricks! rotflmo


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Just curious how does their knowledge help a handgun hunter?
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even experienced rifle hunters.



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you are a prick.


Man, are you losing your mind????



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I don't wade in much, it is a hunting forum and I've hunted more with rifles.
However;
Reloading some makes no one an expert, dangerous if they think so.
10 years for expert. Yup, most fields 10 years of work makes the expert.
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Not 10 years of pushing the same button, 10 years of work in the field constantly learning.
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We say you know you are a machinist when you realize you know 10% of what you thought you knew 10 years ago.
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NO problems with 500L with pistol primers. 18 years ago I stgarted with them, had to make them work.
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Magnum??? When were Magnum primers first developed????? What did they do before that.
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If a lot of this was on Mythbusters, a truth would emerge....
Some folks would say they did it wrong and they might do a follow up show, as they are known to do.
Some will ALWAYS say they did it wrong if they were the ones setting the standards.
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Some people are not looking for the truth, they look for an accomplice.
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Wading thru the BS to get to the great info on hunting and hunting loads is getting to be a lot of work.
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If you look back, some people are willing to admit when they are wrong.
These people are the same ones that accept apologies and go on with the subject.
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See a pattern. They are looking to improve the game. They are the players, not the cheer leaders and fans.
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Do away with the cheerleaders and fans and there is still a game.
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I post what I can back. If you are having problems with the 500L, see what you can correct.
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Sorry for the spelling.
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Not sorry for the rant.
It is a royal pain to check a thread and wade thru 50 posts of someone asks a question and keeps disageeing with NO proof.
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Once does not an expert make.
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I thank you all for the info on hunting handguns.
 
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X 2,well said.


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HIJACK!!!!!
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JWP475 & Whitworth:
As to RH & SRH......
Long barrel SRH 480, fit it with a 5 shot cylinder and maybe scope.
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Put the 6 shot cylinder in a RH with maybe a 4??? Inch barrel, John will let me know.
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Till I finish a Titanium as required RH.
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Talk amonst yourselves.
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Hijack over.
 
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HIJACK!!!!!
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JWP475 & Whitworth:
As to RH & SRH......
Long barrel SRH 480, fit it with a 5 shot cylinder and maybe scope.
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Put the 6 shot cylinder in a RH with maybe a 4??? Inch barrel, John will let me know.
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Till I finish a Titanium as required RH.
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Talk amonst yourselves.
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Hijack over.


Dang, didn't we do just that? No scope, red dot! Oh, and the barrel is 7.5-inches for the .475.......



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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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Whitworth;
I will go back and look.
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Barrel length so noted.
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Never have put a Red dot on a revolver, always scopes on T/C back then.
As accurate for load development?
Thanks Marko
 
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No amount of arguing on the internet, or reading field and stream will make up for a lack of experience.


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An oz of experience is worth alb of theory.
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John Buhmiller:183 elephants
Best day:10 with 10 shots
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No PH, only a native tracker with a spear.
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Showed Roy what a 460 was.
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Made his own cartridges, barrels and rifles.
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He made bullets work. They did not tumble.
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Poor John, no internet to tell him what would work.
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11 Cape Buffalo in one day but it took him 13 shots..............
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Counter point?????
 
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I started on this thot of having a rifle and revolver in the same bullet diameter .. I want to build a 500 AR . And was thinking the 500 L. would make a good companion as I could come up with a bullet that was affordable to shoot in both guns for blasting ... possibly the 450 gr .Barnes Original . But they are a bit more $ than they used to be .
.So now I,m thinking about going with the 500 JRH which would mean if I want to stay with the same bullet diameter I would need to come up with a different barrel , reamer , reloading dies ect.
what a cunundrum.


.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
 
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Not a conundrum, just more money to spend..... Big Grin



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