Was thinking of a GNR esque 480 ruger necked to 44. I thought for sure it had been done but cant find it. Has it been done?

5 or 6 shot 44 mag conversion.

Would be a nice reach out and touch hunter rig IMHO

The 480 Ruger length and 475 linebaugh length would be good but the 480 Ruger length would fit more guns and be more flexible with all the bullet nose to crimp lengths.

I won't ask why........

Revolvers that were built to accomodate the .480 will fit the .475 Linebaugh. The big diameter, heavy bullet capability of either is a big advantage over the .429, so I would be inclined to stick with big. We already have a fast .44 in the .445. Yes, it could be a neat novelty, but I see no practicality even for long range shooting as big and heavy at moderate velocities doesn't scrub off speed like the faster, lighter bullets. JMHO.......

Too much necking down, which will cause the cases to back out of the cylinder, binding it up. Why do you think GNR did not bother with it when he designed the 455GNR. Can only neck down a revolver cartridge so much without giving up reliability.

Don't let 'em get you down boomie. Just continue hatching up these kinds of schemes.

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Don't let 'em get you down boomie. Just continue hatching up these kinds of schemes.

Boomie -- go hunting!

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Originally posted by Whitworth:

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Don't let 'em get you down boomie. Just continue hatching up these kinds of schemes.

Boomie -- go hunting!

I did mid december... 7 hogs with my 470

FINALLY!! Congratulations!

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Originally posted by Woodrow S:
Too much necking down, which will cause the cases to back out of the cylinder, binding it up. Why do you think GNR did not bother with it when he designed the 455GNR. Can only neck down a revolver cartridge so much without giving up reliability.

Thanks for that info... I was told by Mr JRH that they figured out a way to prevent this but I understand the reasons why the cases would cause problems. How does the 30-30 work on the BFR without problem? if any case should cause problems I figure this would.

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Don't let 'em get you down boomie. Just continue hatching up these kinds of schemes.

I just like to push the boundaries and ask questions. 2 years ago 30 thou shoulder per side was gospel and now 20 seems to be the new standard. The more I ask the more I learn.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
FINALLY!! Congratulations!

You never read the thread?

lots of fun... had a couple great running shots. one 75 yards the other 100

Them 400 grain gold dots were bang flop and did not stay inside of 3' of pig going 2400 fps

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Revolvers that were built to accomodate the .480 will fit the .475 Linebaugh. The big diameter, heavy bullet capability of either is a big advantage over the .429, so I would be inclined to stick with big. We already have a fast .44 in the .445. Yes, it could be a neat novelty, but I see no practicality even for long range shooting as big and heavy at moderate velocities doesn't scrub off speed like the faster, lighter bullets. JMHO.......

Yes the 500 JRH and 475 Linebaugh/480 Ruger seem about perfect but I thought this could be a flater, longer range option for heavy 44 bullets in the 300 to 400 grain range in a cheap conversion.

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Originally posted by boom stick:

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
FINALLY!! Congratulations!

You never read the thread?

lots of fun... had a couple great running shots. one 75 yards the other 100

Them 400 grain gold dots were bang flop and did not stay inside of 3' of pig going 2400 fps

Never saw the thread! Did you post it in the hog hunting forum?

first if its a 5 shot conversion theres no such thing as cheap. Second id have to think a round like that wouldnt be something that a guy would want to shoot alot of full power loads out of. Its going to take a lot of ball powder to make work and shooting that at or a smaller bore woud tend to chew up forcing cones pretty fast.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Thanks for that info... I was told by Mr JRH that they figured out a way to prevent this but I understand the reasons why the cases would cause problems. How does the 30-30 work on the BFR without problem? if any case should cause problems I figure this would.

Yes, he has figured out how to do it. Even a 284 shortened and necked down to 6mm shooting a 85 grainer above 2400 FPS in a revolver works when Jack works his magic

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Originally posted by Lloyd Smale:
first if its a 5 shot conversion theres no such thing as cheap. Second id have to think a round like that wouldnt be something that a guy would want to shoot alot of full power loads out of. Its going to take a lot of ball powder to make work and shooting that at or a smaller bore woud tend to chew up forcing cones pretty fast.

Agreed that a 5 shot conversion is not cheap... what guns can handle just reaming out the cylinder?

I am not a fan of high preasure and a bigger case can take some preasure away.

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Originally posted by jwp475:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Thanks for that info... I was told by Mr JRH that they figured out a way to prevent this but I understand the reasons why the cases would cause problems. How does the 30-30 work on the BFR without problem? if any case should cause problems I figure this would.

Yes, he has figured out how to do it. Even a 284 shortened and necked down to 6mm shooting a 85 grainer above 2400 FPS in a revolver works when Jack works his magic

It is good to know we have talent like this at hand.

I dont know it it can work but part of the design of this came because I was thinking about a wildcat for the 44 mag ruger carbine that is in this years line up.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:

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Originally posted by boom stick:

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
FINALLY!! Congratulations!

You never read the thread?

lots of fun... had a couple great running shots. one 75 yards the other 100

Them 400 grain gold dots were bang flop and did not stay inside of 3' of pig going 2400 fps

Never saw the thread! Did you post it in the hog hunting forum?

here is the link to some pics

http://www.weaponsmith.com/images/dec08

here is the 470 AR stainless Ruger MKII with some cammo tape on the barrel



Here are some of them.

Excellent Boomie! Thanks for posting the pics and the link! That's a nice rifle BTW!

Boomie, you're young...

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Excellent Boomie! Thanks for posting the pics and the link! That's a nice rifle BTW!

Jeffeosso did a great job!

It is trim and fits me good.

Jeffe put some damn nice wood on it too.

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Originally posted by jwp475:
Boomie, you're young...

LOL, what does that mean?

Means exactly what it implies, you look young the opposite of old

Yeah... probaby younger than 98% of others here...

I only know of 3 younger than I here.

I got plenty of shooting, wildcatting, gun collecting and hunting ahead of me I hope. I have benefited so much by the "Older" folks here. Thanks all

JWP, you're old -- you know, the opposite of young........

And you're right in between, you know niether one...

Yeah, thanks for reminding me.......

Well back on topic do you think any of the ruger 6 shots could have enough cylinder wall thickness to do this? I know they used to make 6 shot 480's

How about on the SRH? Packy

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Well back on topic do you think any of the ruger 6 shots could have enough cylinder wall thickness to do this? I know they used to make 6 shot 480's

I don't understand the question. Do you mean does the six-shot have enough strength to handle the bottle-neck cartridge? Obviously to use a bottle-neck, a new blank would have to be used to make the cylinder. Please clarify, Boomie.

Whitworth...to use an existing 6 shot 44 cylinder and ream out to a 480-44

"Assuming" you stay within the limits of the chamber pressures, yes. But how often do we do that? I'd opt for a 5 shot cylinder with a little more meat.

Here's an example of something along the lines of what you're contemplating. It's a S&W 500 necked down to 44mag. It's something I played with about 5yrs ago but it's never been tested. Mainly because of excess chamber pressures even in a 5 shot. That's the main reason the .440Corbon was discontinued, excess pressure.



That's a 300gr Hornady seated in the necked down case.

Not to mention the fact that CorBon tends to load hot as is!