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I come into some expired 1 quart cans of juice that had gone bad and thought that I could shoot them and see what happens with the 45 and the 9mm The 9mm went through 3 cans and caused a small hole (enough to leak) on the back side of the fourth can None of the cans were knocked off of the stump. The load was the 124 grain XTP from Fiocchi  The fourth can   The 5 cans that the 45 went through with the 255 grain hard cast load from Buffalo Bore Al five cans were knocked off of the stump  Make your own conclusions from this information, but make mine a 45 _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | ||
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Since energy means nothing....it seems we have two more elk cartridges!  /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I have come to the conclusion you are an ass. Do I win? If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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You certainly are consistently clueless.......  _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Keep stepping in it, Vapiddog. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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vapodog, you're priceless. | |||
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Agreed, just don't see anyone paying for him. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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The Fiochii 124 grain used in the test is advertised at 1290 fps for 458 FPE The 255 grain Buffalo Bore load is advertised at 925 FPS for 484 FPE. For a difference of 26 FPE. Are you saying that 26 FPE makes the huge amount of difference in the damage done by the 2 cartridges? Perhaps a more logical conclusion would be there are other factors at play and your "Holy Grail of FPE" is flawed _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Those 26 ft-lbs sure explain it! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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