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I have found a box of .41 bullets in my dad's stuff, and want to load them for hunting this season. Unfortunately, I am not 100% sure just what they are and how I should expect them to perform, and I was hoping that some of you would remember this bullet, as it is no doubt an older variation (price on the box is $11.50) and is no longer available. The bullet is a Hornady 210 gr. JTC-SIL. Mainly want to know what JTC stands for, as I'm drawing a blank past the Jacketed part. Any help will be appreciated as my .41 mag seems to like these, and I'm on backorder for my regular bullets. Thanks

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Jacketed Truncated cone.
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Thank you Peter,

Now, what type of performance should I expect with this bullet on deer and hogs. Is is supposed to be rapidly expanding, or more for penetration?
 
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Flat points generally do not expand. Silhouette bullets are designed to transfer all their energy to the target. Penetration will probably be a function of the jacket construction which I do not know. I use flat points in some of my handguns as they are more accurate than the HPs. Off hand I would say that penetration would be better than HPs but, again, it depends on construction.
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these bullets aren't exactly flat points. the lead is recessed inside the cone somewhat, not exactly a hollow point, but not really a flat point either. I'm gonna try them, as the only other bullets I have until my order comes in are Rem jsp's and the gun doesn't seem to like them. thanks
 
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Heavy jacket and will work like a fmj small wound channel but very deep Clint
 
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clint,

How do you think these would do for whitetail and hogs?
 
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Daniel, can you post up a picture of these bullets?



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here they are, not a great picture, but you can see the point, profile, and rear.

The side of the box states:
41 cal. 210 gr.
.410 JTC-SIL

(guessing the SIL is for sillhouette?)
 
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I shot this type bullet in a 44mag (250gr) with top end loads and will say that it worked real good for big hogs that needed the penetration but it would be a bad choice for deer type game...they are just too tough for light game and won't expand.
 
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I'll second what Woodrow said. The meplat is a bit on the small side to create a wound channel of any significant size. It will punch two holes in a deer though.



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Those will perform like a full metal jacket. There was a theory that sihlouette bullets with a small amount of lead exposed would have a "gumball effect" and sort of stick to the metallic targets on impact and thus transfer more energy on impact, thus the exposed core. The bullets didn't actually stick to the target mind you but the theory was that it helped transfer the energy but with the thick jackets, they were never meant to expand.


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Originally posted by Peter:
Flat points generally do not expand. Silhouette bullets are designed to transfer all their energy to the target. Penetration will probably be a function of the jacket construction which I do not know. I use flat points in some of my handguns as they are more accurate than the HPs. Off hand I would say that penetration would be better than HPs but, again, it depends on construction.
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Woodrow is correct.


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I do appreciate all the replies.

This bullet is discontinued anyway, so I decided to just use them for targets. Even if it turned out to be incredible, I can't get anymore. what's the point?

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
 
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