I agree Lloyd, if your gun can handle what is needed and the right boolit is used you can do it. It is something you have to determine with whatever gun you have whether auto or revolver.
Even using a quick expanding 180 gr bullet in the .44 for hunting to keep recoil down is wrong.
There are a lot of tiny carry autos out there that need a certain boolit to function and a lot can't take hot loads either. Like the 1911 where you need to change springs and add recoil buffers when shooting hot. A lot of them need a round nose to even feed.
I lump autos in the PITA catagory for hunting.
I feel the same about the .357!

in an auto loader pressure and burning speed are the ticket to good loads. In the 45 acp a guy can run 250 grain bullets at some impressive speeds using a case full of 110. The burning speed is very slow and it actually slows down the slide speed and will work with stock springs and none of those useless shock buffers. Recoil is fairly mild and it wont beat up your gun. Only problem is you will get some unburned powder. Ive fooled around with this a little and it works. Id still like to take some time and try mag primers with it to see if it would burn a little cleaner. Veral smith has fooled with it alot more then me and can tell you more about it. For the most part my 1911s are defense guns and competition guns and really dont have a need for loads like that but they can be made to work.

LLoyd, is there any reloading data out on H110 and autoloader calibers eg. 10mm? I am a big fan of H110 in 44 mag and 45 Colt. I also use in in my AMT in 30 carbine.
Peter.

A revolver is stronger than an auto???Well lets see there...the SAAMI recommended pressure limit for the 41 Rem Mag and the 44 Rem Mag is 36,000 psi AND the SAAMI limit for the 10mm auto is...37,500 psi. The Ruger imposed limit is right around the 36,000 psi limit as well. My Kase Reeder built 1911 custom will feed danged near any bullet and I would not have any reservations on using it as a hunting gun on mid sized game such as deer, hogs or black bear. A 200gr bullet stoked to 1200fps has plenty of penetration and energy for this size game. The 10mm was also intended...from the getgo to be used in the field as well as a defense side-arm. In bear country a 10mm strapped to my side is better than....a darned bell!

Woodrow, I too am a fan of the 10mm -- it's a versatile caliber IMO. Now, does anyone build an auto that can handle the 62,000 psi of the Casull??

Gentlemen, thanks for your cast bullet recommendations. I just received my 200 grain cast bullets from Montana Bullet Works. I ordered 200 just to work up accuracy loads (and see if the feed)! Any recommendations for lead bullet loads? I have only been using jacketed up 'till now.
Peter.

Lyman Pistol & Revolver Handbook gives load data for 175 grain cast bullet in 10mm: Blue Dot 9.3 grains, 1175 fps, up to 10.4 grains, 1275 fps. Their 200 grain HP load is Blue Dot 8.0 grains, 1015 fps, up to 9.6 grains, 1148 fps. Acccurate Powders edition 3.2 recommends No9 using 200 grain Laser Cast Truncated Cone (Lead) bullets starts with 10.6 grains, 1018 fps, up to 11.8 grains for 1157 fps. I'd be comfortable loading with my chronograph as my guide, 200 grain cast bullet at 1150 fps and stop. 11 to 12 grains of 2400 may give good results. I recommend reading Brian Pearce's article in June 2008 Handloader on 10mm Auto.

Thanks 376. I had done some research but still haven't loaded any up yet. Your post was a kick in the behind for me to do something!
Peter.

quote:

Originally posted by bfrshooter:
For deer, maybe OK but it seems kind of backwards to recommend such a light boolit for hogs. I would not put faith in a 200 gr boolit when penetration is needed.
Other posts that say the .41 has a dismal boolit selection from factory ammo along with suggestions to buy or load heavier boolits is dumped here to say a light boolit will always work.
Has the .40 suddenly become more potent then the .41 or .44?
I just don't understand the turn around here.
Why does anyone choose a toy to hunt with?

Do they speak English in West By-God or what?

And what is a Boolit? A bullet?

I have a guy that works for me that speaks really well, but his writing is in Inngrish. Must be a West By-God thing.

Boolit is the term used by handloaders for a cast bullet -- it is not a mark of illiteracy. And bfrshooter is a mid-westerner and only a transplant in west-by-God.........

Just to close the loop, I loaded up some Montana Bullet 200grain lead bullets using 11.7 grains of AA#9 with excellent accuracy results. I did not use the chrono so I have no idea about velocity. I will try some with 11.8 and use the chrono. but I am happy with the results so far!
Peter.

That's excellent, Peter! Most importantly it's accurate! Thanks for the update!

quote:

Originally posted by Whitworth:
Boolit is the term used by handloaders for a cast bullet -- it is not a mark of illiteracy. And bfrshooter is a mid-westerner and only a transplant in west-by-God.........

What happend to the words HCL or hard cast lead?

I have been reloading for 20 years, and have been reading Reloader magazine my whole life. Never heard of that one.

I have been handloading for 37 years, and casting for the first 20 or so of those years, and have never used or even heard of the term "boolit" until I saw it used by bfrshooter!
Peter.

I agree, boolit is "boolshit"!

Definitely not bullshit.

There are even websites dedicated to cast "boolits". For example: www.castboolits.gunloads.com

You see, you can learn something every time you logon to this site.......

Both Merriam Webster, Wikipedia, and Oxford don't list it as a word.

I would say that some idiot probably miss-spelled it 20 years ago and everyone followed suit.

Cast bullets will always be in proper English cast b u l l e t s or HCL or hard cast lead.

Anal in it's purist form

Yes I am retaining my anus quite well, thank you!

Can't be real if it's not on Wikepedia......LOL.....

Boolit is a slang term. Every hobby, business, walk of life, etc. has its own vernacular.......

I don't remember who coined it but it is just an easy way to say "cast" versus condom bullets.
If posting and someone just says bullet, we don't know if it is cast or not. Then more space is used for someone to ask.
Beats having to type cast bullet or jacketed bullet every time.