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Personally, I would like some cases which were identical to the 6 PPC in both internal and external body dimensions, but with the rim diameter the same as the basic .308 case. Would be handier for making switch barrel guns on standard M700 actions.

(Most of them will extract the current 6 PPC case after firing, but not all of them and not always.........)


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I would like less variety and less calibers.

I want no more super duper magnums.
I want no more short or super short calibers.
I want wildcat cartridges for the most part to stay that way and not make their way to the commercial manufacturers.
I want less bullet selection in loaded ammo, because we don't need 200 different flavors of 30-06.

What I want is less stuff to have to stock on the shelves and more incentive for younger guys to get into hobbies such as customizing their stuff and for them to get into reloading.

Face it, why would the average 10 box a year shooter get into reloading today when he can buy the exact combo of brass and velocity and bullet off the shelf?

But I digress, if I had to pick a new caliber to come on the market it would be a rimmed version of the 401 Winchester Self Loader only with stronger brass than the original to be used in the Contender.

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I wish bullet manufacturers would 1) quit dumping roundnose softpoint bullets and start offering more of them, they work great at moderate ranges (imagine a RN Partition!) and 2) make "sample" boxes of 25 so handloaders can test before committing to an entire box.

I also wish Lapua made 22-250 and .260 Rem brass. Hell I wish Winchester made .260 Rem brass.


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I would like less variety and less calibers.


Yeh, I think your post is right on the money on that point. But then what would all the gun writers do for a living? And the glossy paper industry?
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<But I digress, if I had to pick a new caliber to come on the market it would be a rimmed version of the 401 Winchester Self Loader only with stronger brass than the original to be used in the Contender.>-Spencer



I think that would be neat, but sure as heck S&W would have six different new versions of a revolver each month for it.......in keeping with their apparent policy of selling just 20 each of 480 different "models" every year :<o)


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I wish bullet manufacturers would 1) quit dumping roundnose softpoint bullets and start offering more of them, they work great at moderate ranges (imagine a RN Partition!).



Guess that's one good thing about being a hoarder. I'm still shooting Nosler 200 gr. RN Partitions in my '06 for woods use...


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Boat-tail bullets with polycarbonate tips. Imagine a Sierra 190gr MatchKing with a ballistic tip, like on a V-max. Sweetness...

I'd also like to see H4831SC in a super-short cut for increased metering accuracy.
 
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Ditto on the round noses. That would make my day. I would especially like more round noses in .264 and .323

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Originally posted by BlackHawk1:
I wish bullet manufacturers would 1) quit dumping roundnose softpoint bullets and start offering more of them, they work great at moderate ranges (imagine a RN Partition!) and 2) make "sample" boxes of 25 so handloaders can test before committing to an entire box.

I also wish Lapua made 22-250 and .260 Rem brass. Hell I wish Winchester made .260 Rem brass.
 
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Great question!!!

The very first thing that comes to mind is if ALL the Factory Ammo makers would provide some "Calibration Ammo" for the HSGS and Chronograph folks. Just state on the box:

1. The Average PSI of this Lot is 5X,x00PSI.
2. The Variation of this Lot is + or - 1,500PSI.

And they could do the same for the Velocity on the Calibration loads:

1. From our 26" tight chambered Test Barrel the Velocity of this Lot is 3220fps.
2. The Variation of this Lot is 22fps.

No one would even mind paying a Premium for it as long as it was reasonable.
 
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Winchester Silver Tips in other than .30 caliber. This is an availability issue, I know they make them in other calibers.

9.3x64 brass- it's very difficult to find in the USA.

Norma Alaska bullets


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I'd like Nosler to once again make a 270 gr. .375 Partition, rather than or in addition to the 260 gr.

I'd also like Nosler to make a line of accuracte, reliable, high-quality solids for use on dangerous game

And i'd absolutely love it if Hornady would make a line on bonded Inter-Locts in all calibers from .243 on up -- not just the dangerous game calibers, as they currently do.

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I would like to see Barnes bring back some of there original bullets. Sorely missed are the 175 gr 7mm's, and the 220 gr 30 cal.

I guess some Nosler partions in .423 cal, in both a 350-360 ( ish ) grains, and a 400 gr. would be a welcome addition also.

While I am wishing RWS inporting some of their quality brass, 404 Jeffe, 9.3x62, would be two that would interest me.
 
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-I want Hornady to release their 250 and 300 gr .452 SST bullets as components by themselves. The SST's purchased as muzzleloader sabots are expensive!

-Hornady Interbond bullets in 6.5 mm and 6mm.

-416 Ballistic Tips


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I'd like to see the 6.5-06 made a standard factory cartridge


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I want swift to make a 140 gr scircco for the 7mm
 
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Hornady or Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic tip with a thin, varmint jacket for the 25-06.


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While I am wishing RWS inporting some of their quality brass, 404 Jeffe, 9.3x62, would be two that would interest me.



Hi, Schromf...have you drowned over there yet? It has been pouring here for a week+ now.

Anyway, are you familiar with Vicki, the "bullet lady" over in the Portland, OR area? She usually carries at least some RWS brass at good prices. I bought RWS 9.3x74 brass from her a little while back. Once she gets to know you, she'll cut ya some really sweet deals.......


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Great question!!!

The very first thing that comes to mind is if ALL the Factory Ammo makers would provide some "Calibration Ammo" for the HSGS and Chronograph folks.


Hot Core - GREAT IDEA!! For those of us without pressure guns or piezo gauges, who have to rely on reading brass "tea leaves" and chronographs when working up loads for obsolete and wildcat cartridges, that info would really be a God-send.

It may not produce any results, but I have a close friend who is a regular monthly question and answer column writer for the NRA magazines. I'll give him a copy of your question and see if he'll be willing to use it in one of his columns. If he does, maybe it'll help make the ammo companies aware of the need/market for that kind of thing.

Won't hurt to try, anyway.....


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1. Primers that will crush uniformly so we can read them for pressure with a mike.

2. Sabots for applications other than the .224/.308 combo.

3. Solid powder charges for straight wall cases in duplex.
 
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Personally, I would like some cases which were identical to the 6 PPC in both internal and external body dimensions, but with the rim diameter the same as the basic .308 case. Would be handier for making switch barrel guns on standard M700 actions.


AC I think the 220 swift case ,out side, will get you there with a little work.The inside i'm sure would vary some. beerroger


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Thanks, Roger. Externally you may well be right. Internally, the Swift has a much heavier web, I'm guessing. If so, case capacity would probably be noticeably different. (I remember seeing cut-aways of the original PPC "wildcat" and, if I recall correctly, it almost looked like a "baloon-head" case inside. Maybe that's one of the many reasons some of the older BR competitors fretted so much about the "new" sources of basic brass.)

Anyway, will do a little tinkering in my shop and see if your suggestion works out externally. I have a 40-X .220 Russian that idea might be just the ticket for.... (It only pulls my current lot of Lapua .220 Russian brass about 2/3 of the time.)


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...It may not produce any results, but I have a close friend who is a regular monthly question and answer column writer for the NRA magazines. I'll give him a copy of your question and see if he'll be willing to use it in one of his columns. If he does, maybe it'll help make the ammo companies aware of the need/market for that kind of thing.

Won't hurt to try, anyway.....
Hey AC, That is great. Feel free to tell him you thought of it to eliminate one level of confusion. It is obvious you understand "why" it would be a benefit for the folks unskilled with the "brass tea leaves". Big Grin

I get the NRA American Hunter and I would appreciate it if you would tell him the "new look" is OUTSTANDING! They have more excellent writing than I can remember for many years. It is the very best Firearms/Hunting related magazing currently available to the public - from what I've seen on the shelves.

They have reduced the Tear-Outs and about doubled the size of it from just a few years ago.

Best of luck getting the Manufacturers attemtion.
 
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I want to see more component MFGRs sell more basic brass, RUM's, 223's, 460 WBY's just as an example. There are not too many companies that offer that sort of stuff.
 
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Another thing I'd love to buy, while we're all mentioning Noslers, and especially Nosler RN Partitions is -
A Nosler Partition RN .30 cal 250-gr. bullet (So I could load my '06s almost like the old .318 WR round.)


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A Nosler Partition RN .30 cal 250-gr. bullet (So I could load my '06s almost like the old .318 WR round.)


The Barns original 250gr RN, would be closer to the Kynok load than with a partition. It least a far as duplicating that load.

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Great question!!!

The very first thing that comes to mind is if ALL the Factory Ammo makers would provide some "Calibration Ammo" for the HSGS and Chronograph folks. Just state on the box:

1. The Average PSI of this Lot is 5X,x00PSI.
2. The Variation of this Lot is + or - 1,500PSI.

And they could do the same for the Velocity on the Calibration loads:

1. From our 26" tight chambered Test Barrel the Velocity of this Lot is 3220fps.
2. The Variation of this Lot is 22fps.


Then the ammo companies would have to tell the TRUTH about their velocities and not what they advertise it to be. The same for the powder companies and their reloading data. Ever wonder why their data does not agree, and has so many different max loads betwen them. Even they do not post pressures on must of their data.

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Hornady or Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic tip with a thin, varmint jacket for the 25-06.


Might be easier and faster to get with Martin Potts, to help you get started swaging your own design. Do not know about the plastic tip though. I just started this process for my own 500gr/.458".

As for my wish list:

Powder not costing $20+lb

No "Haz-Mat" fees on powder or primers. As they do not handle these packages any different from the rest. Just more rip-off gravey for them. Mad


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.44 cal Barnes X, 280-320 grains.
 
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I'ld like to see bullet manuf. offer smaller or sample packs of bullets for initial load dev. I would like to see a Hornady 400gr/.423 IB & a 400gr NP offering from Nosler.


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Hi, Schromf...have you drowned over there yet? It has been pouring here for a week+ now.


No, but it really donked up my deer season. Three hard days and only one out of season doe to show for it. I wish I had a moose tag though, boy I saw a couple. But the deer were not out playing in the rain and sleet, snow in the high country but it is whitetail only and the whiretails like the lower country.
 
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A Nosler Partition RN .30 cal 250-gr. bullet (So I could load my '06s almost like the old .318 WR round.)


Thats why I miss those Barnes 220 gr originals.
 
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Lapua brass for 7x57

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im with black hawk1 sample boxes of projies for each caliber not so much as a brand thing but more of say a box with eg: 140 7mm projies of all brands and designs so you can try them all in one hit with out having 15 half boxes of the stuff that didnt work
 
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Lapua brass for 7x57

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Absolutely, Lapua should make their great brass available for many more calibers. I could not believe it, when they dropped the .270 Win from their line just recently. Mad
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Barnes 120gr triple-shock in .277
 
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Brass with self cleaning primer pockets!!


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8mm 180gr, 200gr and 220gr Hornady Interbond


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I wish speer would bring back their old 125 gr 8mm bullet. Man was that fun with an old 98 mauser and running jackrabbits. Then bring back their olf 60 gr 257 spitzer. It was the best bullet for my 256 martini cadet.
 
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I'd like to see more quality in US brass. We've really slipped a great deal here. Lapua and Norma are putting us to shame. We could begin by making our cases more uniform in weight and dimension. Even the necks are frequently out of round, and if they'd drill out the primer pockets instead of punching them out we wouldn't have to spend so much time and effort getting rid of the internal projections that result from the punching operation. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.

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I wish that Sierra would get into the .50BMG projectile game and make some good quality Match and hunting projos...
I wish that we could find good "match" quality U.S. made .50BMG primers AND "new" BMG brass for that matter... Winchester/Olin WAS going to release some of these this year but thanks to the War On Terror, and all the ammo demand THAT created, it isn't going to happen now...
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I'd like to see a .35 caliber in 250 gr spitzer boatail.

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I wish all virgin brass would come trimmed to length, have the flashole deburred, primer pockets uniform, all weigh the same, and be as concentric (from the manufacturer) as the very best benchrest cases...all as concentric as possible. It wouldn't matter if it was Lapua, RWS, Norma, WW, Rem, Hornady/Frontier, Federal, etc.

I wish they all had an identical standard to meet or the case didn't leave the factory. And I'd be willing to PAY for it!


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Bruno's Shooters Supply in Arizona lists 9.3x62 Lapua for $.46 ea. I have a form tool someplace that will allow you to turn your rim on your brass to a smaller diameter. Red Cornelison, an old friend and wildcatter, used it to turn his 6BR brass down to fit his small boltface rifle. I sent Cheechako some of the brass. By the way, it was necked to .224 and neck turned. Butch
 
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