21 September 2006, 02:09
POP358 Win Loads?
I am working up loads in my BLR. What are your suggestions? I would LOVE to have one load do all (deer/elk bear) etc but not necessary. Thanx
21 September 2006, 02:35
Savage99POP,
That bullet video is cool but I have grown tired of it. It's bad enough over on Nosler.com but now your here with it.
If you don't mind could you give it a rest?
Thanks.
21 September 2006, 02:39
POPOk how is this? I do aim to please!

21 September 2006, 03:01
ConFor practice ... try 17.0 gr Blue Dot behind a 158gr pistol projectile ... very cheap and very mild.
For hunting I'm still using up 4 boxes of Winchester 200gr factory loads ... then I'll swap to either the 225gr Nosler Partition or 225gr Sierra. For the really big stuff ... 37gr AR2208 (Varget) will push the 310gr Woodleigh out the barrel but wont stabilise in the 1:14" twist my rifle has. Quite mild in my rifle ... I plan on upping that last load to see what velocity I can get from the 310gr Woodleigh as a precursor to the 375-08 I'm building.
Cheers...
Con
21 September 2006, 08:24
Savage99Yea thats fine. It was the motion that got to me.
Thanks.
22 September 2006, 01:10
jeffeossoPop,
sierra 225gr, win 748... work up from 48gr... as with all internet loads, use at your own risk
jeffe
22 September 2006, 19:20
POPJeff:
How does that Sierra hold up on tougher than deer game? any input?
23 September 2006, 10:38
RDubHey Pop
Well I'm going to assume that you are thinking about a load for shots under 150 yards. If that is the case then I'll share what I have settled for in my Mod 99-358. I don't use a scope on this one, it has a Williams receiver sight.
I like the Speer 250gr Spitzer over 45.0 grs. of H-335 and a Win primer.
Muzzle velocity is right around 2300 fps. from a 22" barrel.
The Speer bullet is very tough and being a spitzer, holds its velocity better than the round nose bullets so it hits a bit harder.
I've killed deer, bear, wild boar and elk with the Speer bullet and it works very well. Pretty good for a non-premium bullet.
The Sierra 225gr spitzer BT is a good bullet also but for some reason I couldn't get it to shoot better than the Speer bullet in my rifle.
Now if you wanted to go the premium route, I would suggest either the Nosler 225gr or the Nosler 250gr Partitions. You couldn't go wrong with these two.
Hope this helps.
23 September 2006, 17:54
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by POP:
Jeff:
How does that Sierra hold up on tougher than deer game? any input?
Pop,
exit wounds, stem to stern, on 180-250# pigs, routinly... never recovered one, and shoot mosa or better.
jeffe
24 September 2006, 01:34
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by POP:
I am working up loads in my BLR. What are your suggestions? I would LOVE to have one load do all (deer/elk bear) etc but not necessary. Thanx
My BEST load for my original type BLR w/20" barrel was 51.5 grains of WW748 powder with a 250-grain Speer spitzer softpoint. This generated 2420 FPS, and gave 1 MOA groups, yet was still 1.5 grains under Ken Waters' max. load for that bullet in his mannlicher-Schoenauer .358 carbine.
This was in the days before Nosler started making .358-caliber Partition bullets. Today, I'd use the Nosler Partition of the same weight with that same powder charge. IMO, this load would be adequate for ANY North American game, including big bears.
25 September 2006, 18:15
jeffeosso51.5 with a 250? and STILL under Ken's max?
WOW!..
jeffe