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404 Jeffery loads????
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Does anyone have some loading information for the 404 Jeffery? (FredJ338, I know you have some).

My goal is to get approx. 2,250 fps with the following:

400 grn Woodleigh solid
400 grn Woodleigh softs
400 grn Swift A-Frame

I also have some 380 grain Northfork CPS that I would like to shoot at +/- 2,250 fps.

I should be getting my rifle back from the gunsmith soon and it will have a 25" Lothar Walther barrel.

The powders that I have on hand for this project are:

RL-15
H4831sc
Varget

I have new Norma brass and CCI Large Rifle Mag primers.

Thanks!

Tim
 
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Roll Eyesout of that same case necked down to .358, 5000 ft.lbs of energy are developed at safe pressure in one of my rifles. you are looking for less than 4500 ft.lbs.

If your rifle is adequately throated and your magazine of sufficient length it looks like you got a shoe in. Just a suggestion but it seems that one of the 4350s or H-380 might be in order. waveroger A PS hey!!!!!! You might have one of the perfect but rare uses for 7383. eek2


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Shumba,

I would look into Varget, my .404 is not far away either (1909 mauser) and I do not under any circumstances want to push the barrow so am looking for 2200 fps or there abouts from my 23 1/2" lothar barrel and I reckon 71-73 gr of Varget will get me there.
 
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Nick Harvey's manual lists, for Varget/AR2208 and 400 gn bullet, starting load of 76 gns for 2240 fps; Max load 85 gns for 2450 fps [24" barrel].

Or for RL-15, Start 80 gns for 2400 fps, Max 84 gns for 2495 fps.

H4831SC looks to be a bit slow for this cartridge.


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Doug
 
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Shumba

I got some Norma data. PM me your email address

Cheers
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Tim, when I get home I can look up the specifics, but for now I have settled on RL19 & IMR4831 unfer the 380grNF & 400gr Woodleighs. The 400gr run right about 2200fps, the 380gr about 2250fps from my 23" PacNor. I tried RL15, Varget & H4831sc but liked the load density of IMR4831 & RL19 better. Laszlo getting your rifle to you soon, sweet. We need to make a road trip to Tehachapi for some range time (private range, benches to 300).


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I got very good results with 72 grains of IMR-4064, with 6.2 cc of Pufflon on top of that, using a 400 grain .065 jacket Hawk bullet, followed by the Lee Factory Crimp die.

Winchester LR primers.

2300 fps, with low standard deviations between strings.

You can substitute RL-15 for IMR 4064, but I would back off 5 grains or so, and then work up.

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Gadge,

Nick is a fair bit hotter than the ADI book.......................I reckon for my old mauser I will use the ADI data just to be safe.
 
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Here's some loading data right here on AR:

http://www.accuratereloading.com/404.html

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Ok Tim;
75gr RL15 / 400gr Hawk = 2245fps
75gr RL15 / 400gr Barnes = 2247fps
85gr IMR4831 / 400gr Hawk = 2200fps
80gr H4831sc / 400gr Hawk = 2090fps
My working load is:
84gr RL19 / 380gr NF = 2245fps, this load shoots consistantly under 1moa, the others about 1.5moa. I have some Barnes monosolids that run @ 2150fps w/ the same RL19 load. All loads are Norma brass & Fed. 215 primers.
75gr RL15 under your Woodleighs, out of your 25"bbl, should gey you around 2300fps. IMR4064 & VV150 are also promising. Next time I'm out w/ .404 I want to try H4350, RIP likes it & it is great in some other calibers I have tried. Let me know when you want to go shoot her. clap


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