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Gentlemen,

For those of you who have been asking about this one. I have resumed our load development, and hope to have it all ready within the next few days.

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Great, Saeed!!

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Posts: 736 | Location: In the deep Norwegian woods. | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Yes I'm interested in what you come up with. Maybe a discussion of which rifle to build the 338ultra or the 375 ultra can follow.

regards
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I'm very interested in your load development;thanks Saeed...
 
Posts: 439 | Location: Quebec Canada | Registered: 27 August 2001Reply With Quote
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WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Been waiting for this thread!!! THANKS SAEED!!!!!

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Posts: 264 | Location: Big Sky Country, MT | Registered: 12 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

I think we have posted some of these before, but I will post them all again here anyway.

We used Remington brass and the Federal 215 primers in all our loads. Over all loaded cartridge length was 3.600.

All groups are 3 ahots at 100 yards, using a 4.4-14 X Leupold scope.

Barnes 160 grain X bullet

VVN 560

87.0 - 2991 - 2.146
89.0 - 3086 - 1.546
91.0 - 3135 - 1.728
93.0 - 3204 - 1.624
95.0 - 3269 - 2.065
97.0 - 3332 - 1.722
99.0 - 3431 - 1.328
101.0 - 3521 - 2.004
103.0 - 2600 - 2.268

VVN 165

92.0 - 3099 - 2.354
95.0 - 3228 - 2.135
97.0 - 3327 - 0.543
99.0 - 3443 - 0.414
101.0 - 3517 - 2.139
103.0 - 3594 - 2.635


Barnes X BT 185

VVN 165

92.0 - 3168 - 4.160
94.0 - 3230 - 2.649
96.0 - 3307 - 4.271
98.0 - 3418 - 1.819
100.0 - 3529 - 1.961

WMR

87.0 - 3004 - 2.060

Nosler 200 Ballistic Tip

VVN 165

90.0 - 2999 - 1.802
92.0 - 3058 - 0.768
94.0 - 3191 - 1.279
96.0 - 3219 - 0.833
98.0 - 3337 - 0.459
100.0 - 3368 - 1.147
102.0 - 3408 - 1.120
104.0 - 3458 - 0.924

Reloader 22

94.0 - 3206 - 0.869
96.0 - 3262 - 1.476
98.0 - 3352 - 2.179
100.0 - 3393 - 1.790

Barnes 210 XBT

Reloader 22

92.0 - 3089 - 1.744
94.0 - 3185 - 2.365
96.0 - 3290 - 1.643
98.0 - 3391 - 0.953
100.0 - 3427 - 1.779

Winchester 230 Fail Safe

H 1000

92.0 - 2930 - 1.502
94.0 - 2996 - 1.123
96.0 - 3045 - 0.576
98.0 - 3111 - 0.915
100.0 - 3215 - 1.072
102.0 - 3236 - 1.854

Speer 275 African Grand Slam

H 870

96.0 - 2584 - 0.996
98.0 - 2610 - 0.310
100.0 - 2670 - 1.496
102.0 - 2684 - 0.676

Sierra 300 Match King

VVN 165

80.0 - 2447 - 1.283
82.0 - 2525 - 0.526
84.0 - 2583 - 0.751
86.0 - 2649 - 0.643
88.0 - 2766 - 0.568
90.0 - 2803 - 0.965

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Hello Saeed.
What happend to the 250 grs. bullet (Nosler maybe)??
And maybe the 300 grs. Sierra Match King's??
BUT, THANK YOU!!! for what you already have done.

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Posts: 736 | Location: In the deep Norwegian woods. | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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460wby,

I do not have any 250 grain bullets.

I am shooting the 300 Sierra MK right now, and as soon as I am through, will post the data.

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Any kind of 250 grs bullets would be appreciated...
 
Posts: 439 | Location: Quebec Canada | Registered: 27 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Saeed,
Were the barnes bullets used in the experiments the coated XLC bullets, or the standard X bullets?

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Posts: 264 | Location: Big Sky Country, MT | Registered: 12 October 2001Reply With Quote
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the444shooter,

Our Barnes X are the old uncoated ones.

rejpelly,

My stock list shows we have some Sierra 250 grain bullets, but I do not seem to be able to find them.

We will look for them, and if we do have them we will shoot them.

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Thanks Saeed...
 
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Wow,
So if we can expect 100fps more from the coated bullets (as randy brooks has claimed), That 210gr bullet will be SSSSSSSSSSSSSmokin'!!!!!!!! (notice the many S's to emphasize the velocity which could be attained )

210gr monolithic bullets at 3500fps!!!!!! WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!! OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!

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Posts: 264 | Location: Big Sky Country, MT | Registered: 12 October 2001Reply With Quote
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the444shooter,

Good news my friend!

I have found some Barnes X 250 grain bullets, and will try a few loads with them.

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I simply love you, Saeed!!
Santa has heard my wishes.

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Posts: 736 | Location: In the deep Norwegian woods. | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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THANK YOU SAEED!!!!!
I am very excited to see what you get. My guess is at least 3000fps (I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE) So far, my gun shoots great groups, sub-MOA, with the Nosler Partitions, and I can't wait to get my hands on some 210gr XLC's HOOOIEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posts: 264 | Location: Big Sky Country, MT | Registered: 12 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Saeed,

Thanks! I've been waiting on this one for a long time. Please post your comments on this cartridge.

 
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Posts: 264 | Location: Big Sky Country, MT | Registered: 12 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

We are getting some good results with the Barnes X 250 grain bullet wnd H1000.

I should have everything done within the next day or two.

90.0 H 1000 2755 - 0.516"
96.0 H 1000 2960 fps - 0.798"

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Saeed,
That's a lot of testing!! Who gets the honour of shooting it that many times off the bench? Also, I'd imagine tylenol, and sports creme are handy as well.
Seems like a shooter. You do amazing work.
 
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Saeed;I dont if you are using a muzzle break or a tripod eliminating the most of the kicking,if not you are really someone...
 
Posts: 439 | Location: Quebec Canada | Registered: 27 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

The rifle is a standard Remington 700 with a blued barrel. I changed the stock and put it in an H-S Precision stock, put a Leupold 4.5-14 Scope on it and left it at that.

The boys here refuse to shoot anything with a case larger than a 30-06, so I am afraid I have to do all the shooting myself. And as usually work in the workshop in a T-shirt and a pair of shorts, I have put 2 PAST recoil pads together with velcro, and use them while shooting.

Shooting rifles with classic stocks does not seems to bother me so much.

Shooting some of the German made rifles with factory stocks seems to really give a good whack, especially on the cheek.

It is not bad at all shooting these rifles in our lab. I normally load 3 rounds, shoot them, load another 3 rounds, wait for the barrel to cool, then shoot again.

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Saeed,

Just curious as to what kind of accuracy you are getting out of your Remington?

Thanks,
Telly

 
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Saeed...

Helpful hint if you haven't tried it. Froget the PAST pads. Put 10 pounds of lead shot in a heavy duty canvas bag, and connect it to the fron sling mount with about 1" of slack. Place a 25 bag of #8 ro #9 lead shot between your shoulder and the butt...

You can shoo 460 Weatherbys all day long from a bench, and not have any regrets...

Now, two questions...how are the Sierra 300 grain tests coming, and how would you rate the .338 RUM against the other .338's? (.338-416, .338 Lapua, etc.)

 
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Telly;if a man can really do it with the most accuracy, I think Saeed is the man; with let say it with some punishment{.338 RUM is quite a kicker with 250 grs bullets,300 grs ,I prefer not shooting those,the 250 grs were the most my shoulder can accept.}
 
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Telly,

All the above loads are shot in the Remington 700 I mentioned.

I have finished load development on this one. Now I have to put all the data in the computer and posted it.

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

I have compiled all the data, then found that I did not have an HTML software on my new computer - some of you migh remember we had an HD crash a while back. And I do not seem to be able to find my copy of Frontpage.

It seems to have followed the example of many things here - developed legs and walked away!

I asked one of the boys here to buy a new version of Frontpage, which he kindly did. But, following my instructions to the letter - he said I told him to "pick the latest version of Frontpage and buy it."

He brought me an Arabic version!

He promised to change it this evening, and hopefully I will have all the details posted by late tommorow.

Please accept my appologies for the delay.

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

Loading data for this cartridge has been uploaded.

You can find it on the Reloading section, or directly from this link

www.accuratereloading.com/338rum.html

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Saeed,

Thanks for the data. How does V-165 compare to V-N560 in your experience? I haven't tried the 165 but really like the 560.
Thanks again

 
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Cheaha,

The 165 is slower than the 560. Ther are about like comparing Reloader 19 and 22 according to the book.

 
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Gentlemen,

More data has been added for this one.

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Posts: 66927 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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Saeed,

Thanks. You are a big help to us ballistic nuts.

 
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Thanks saeed! Can someone suggest a starting load for the 300 SMK and IMR 7828?
 
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