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I had a stash of 115gr XLC's and managed to get them mixed in with some other Barnes. So I thought I had two more boxes of .257" now I just got some TSX's in the mail. Where do I start for a Roberts and a .25-06? Nate | ||
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The Barnes nr 3 manual will show the differences between the classic X bullet and the XLCs. It does not however show the differences between the XLCs and the TSXs. Originally Barnes said to use the X bullet data for the TSXs which is what I've been doing and have had no issues. The new nr 4 manual shows completely different numbers then the nr 3 so it's kind of a toss up as to which you prefer to trust. I use predominately nr 3 data with the TSXs and TTSXs and have had zero pressure signs and good velocities  .Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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Thanks. I guess I'm not excited about switching and having to work up using a bunch of time and components at the last minute. I dropped down to 100gr from 115 and was just going to go mid level and .050" back from the lands. If they're acceptable I'll play more later. I was hoping for some discussion from others who had to switch. | |||
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I "switched" and best thing ever happened. Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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I will be going to a couple of stores early next week that I know have XLC bullets and several of them, however, I do not know the calibers/weights. If you are interested in any then send me a PM. I'll let you know what they have. If I see what you've been shooting, I'll be glad to pick some up. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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Thanks Doc for the offer. Sorry I have not responded. I didn't get a chance to try them yet but I loaded some of the "new" 100gr TSX's for the .25-06 using H4350 & WLR's. Other than tweeking them a bit I'm hoping they'll be acceptable. If they're all over the place I'm probably gonna be back asking for success stories & loads. Nate | |||
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Tried the 100gr TSX last Sunday and am not impressed yet. I put together two loads of 5 each same everything but seated one batch to the Barnes recommended OAL and one batch to about .060" from lands. Neither were impressive. I had scrubbed my barrel spotless to start. Fired three fouling shots and let cool. The first batch of five went nearly 2" with one wild flier about 6" high. Second batch was closer to 1 1/2" but again had one high one. At the price of these I'm hating the developmental stage!! Are these know for unusual vibrations? I was getting honest 1/2" groups with this rifle and Hornady SST's. | |||
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I shoot 48gr of RL19 and 100gr TSX's in my Roberts for about .75" groups and at 2,942fps. It's a mannlicher stocked Ruger so I called it good. Robert Bruz "Honor,Courage and Character" NRA Lifetime Member | |||
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Sorry to hear that Nate. Obviously one thing to do is try different powders as well. I've been fortunate with the TSXs and their variants in that the 3 rifles I shoot them in all like them. One thing that I've heard is that some rifles may just not like them. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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I had great luck with 52 gr RL-19 and the 100 gr. TSX in my 25-06. Seated .050" off lands. .75" group of 15 shots. | |||
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I'll try seating a bit closer. I don't think I have any RL19. Have any of you found these to have completely different vibration signatures than the same load with a normal bullet? | |||
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All I know is 85 gr. Nosler BT's and 100 gr. TSX's shoot. Nosler 110 AB's don't. In my 25-06. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/616105019 | |||
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What did the groups look like? Vertical, horizontal, big triangle, two close one flyer? Seating depth is the last thing I play with for fine tuning a load. So it doesn't surprise me that you had two bad groups with everything the same except seating depth. It makes sense the second group was bad because the first group was. If the first group would have been good, then the second would have followed pretty close. The seating depth can't make a bad load good. It has to be good to start with, then it can make it excellent. At least that's been my experience. My guess is that you probably need to adjust the powder charge. If the groups were tight but flyers opened them up, you need to try a different primer. I am also a big believer in loading at the rifle range, saves time and materials. | |||
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I agree with what you're saying. The five shot groups were triangle shaped, top two within 5/8" and the bottom two were about 1 1/2" wide and and inch or so below. The flyer's were SEVERAL INCHES HIGH. This rifle has done well with IMR & H4350 as well as H4831sc but with heavier bullets. It was printing honest 1/2" 100 yard three shot groups with 117gr SST's. I'll probably try pick up Some RL19 as I've had good success with it as well. I didn't think I was haphazardly trying a random load and expecting perfection. I was posting here looking for others experiences and some good recipes possibly. | |||
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Big Nate, Just thinking out loud. Why did you switch to 100gr TSX when the heavier bullets were shooting so well for you? Why not the 115 TSX. I would try and match the bullet length as close as possible to the XLC's and Hornady SST's. Worse case scenario you end up using SST's.
It is really nice when a "random" load prints exceptional. I have had it happen a couple times. Normally when it is a beautiful day at the range and planned on spending a bunch of time playing around. Never forgot anything, had lunch and cold beverages packed. Reading material for down time allowing the barrel to cool. It never seems to happen when the weather is crappy and time is short, forgot a bunch of stuff at home. Oh yeah, hunting season right around the corner.  | |||
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Well had some do-gooder types not interfered, I'd have left well enough alone; but I am now required by law to use non-lead ammo. It's a crying shame as I have quite a few boxes of Woodleigh PP collecting dust, and way more target fodder than I will need. I have a feeling I may have to use some slower powder. | |||
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I was wondering about the lead thing with you being from California. Good luck, you know the rifle is good, just have to mess with finding another load. | |||
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Have any of you tried MagPro or RL22 with the 100gr? | |||
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