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I just got a new Rem 700 Mtn LSS in 7MM-08 this spring and would like to find one load that would be good for Whitetail, Black Bear, and Hogs. I hunt in the mountains of NW Arkansas primarilly for Whitetail; however, you always stand a chance of coming across a black bear or a big hog. ( took a nice black bear this past season on the first day of muzzleloader deer season.) Where we hunt shots over 200 Yds would be rare with most being at 150Yds or less. I reload and so far have tried 140Grn Sierra Game Kings (3/4"@100Yds) and 150Grn Ballistic Tips (1-1 1/2"@100Yds). I just loaded up some 140Grn Accubonds but haven't got to shoot them yet and just picked up some 140Grn Hornady Interlocks. I'm also planning of trying some 140 & 150Grn Partitions and some 154Grn Hornady Round Nose. Right now, depending on how well they shoot, I'm leaning toward either the partitions or the accubonds. What 7MM-08 bullet / bullet weight would you recommend as a one size fits all for deer/bear/hogs? firstshot ---------------------------------- Make your first shot count! | ||
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If your gun likes it, the barnes 140 is the best 708 bullet in the world for north american game jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I've been using 140 grain FailSafes for the last three years and will probably stick with this load. Last year my son got his elk with this setup.  | |||
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I would either load the 150 grn partition or the 154 grn hornday interlok and try to get around 2700 fps I would try Varget, IMR4895, RL15, H414, or RL19. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Which barnes 140? X, XLC, Tripple Shock? firstshot --------------------------- Make your first shot count! | |||
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I would choise either Nosler Partitions 140 or 150 or Swift A Frame bullets for a 1 load to do it all. What ever bullet you choise it must be accurate in your rifle . If you have doughts on how the bullet will group or preform ,you have 2 strikes against you . Johnch NRA life Delta Pheasants Forever DU Hunt as if your life depended on your results | |||
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For Bear, I'd use the Hornady 154 Interbond, and the same bullet will do as good as anything out there for Hogs and deer. RE15 would be the powder thats more than likely to give you the "Best" results, 38-39grs. should do the trick, work up, of course. Interbonds are great bullets, Trust me on this one. Jay | |||
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i would suggest the roundnose in-between 150-160 grains, inclusive. not as sexy as some of the premium bullets, but they will do exactly what you want them to do for deer, bear and hogs | |||
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From all that I have read in this forum and elsewhere the 140 TSX is the all around best for the 7/08 if your rifle likes it. For 20 yrs I have loaded the Sierra 160 Gameking HPBT and can shoot .375 groups easily with 43.8 gr of H4350 EXT. Loading with 38.0 of IMR4895 the group is .12 larger. I have never had a game problem with this bullet. Being one to move with technology I have tried hard to find the right combo for the 140TSX for accuracy and have not found it yet. I may give up on it and stay with the Sierra 160. The 160 is good for anything in North America and extremely accurate. | |||
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Try the 160 grain Speer hotcor at 2600 fps and you will have no regrets. I am presently using the 175 grain Hornady interlok spire point at 2500 fps and thus far on deer and hog I can't ask for better. Lots of penetration with both loads. Leftists are intellectually vacant, but there is no greater pleasure than tormenting the irrational. | |||
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Thanks for all the replies. Think I'll just try all of them and see which shoots best in my gun. firstshot -------------------------------- Make your first shot count! | |||
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Got a 1/2" group @ 100 with the 140 Accubonds   firstshot ---------------------------------- Make your first shot count! | |||
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I have a Remington CDL and I use the 140 accubond over reloader-15 38 grains. This load is super out of my weapon with great results. My advice is to be willing to try several of the premium bullets and find one that your weapon likes not all weapons are the same. | |||
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 Most all the suggestions given will work.At 150 yards trejectory isn't any problem.At a velocity level of 2700fps.a 154gr. conventional Hornady round nose would be all that is needed. I know it is trendy to use a sophisticate premo bullet but the extra cost isn't warranted. If you think you need added insurance, See if you can find some 174gr Round noses and drive them around 2400fps.You may not like meeting that short OAL by pushing the bullet deep into the powder room but for what you're hunting it'll get the job done.  Because the rifle(cartridge) and the range in which it will be used are so sensible you have a plethora of right solutions. You can hardly miss.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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The Speer 145gr Hotcore is very accurate in my daughters CDL. I haven't gotten around to loading the 160's because the 145's shoot so well. Lt. Robert J. Dole, 10th Mountain, Italy. | |||
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Even though I don't use them much (I use a few different guns and different bullets for diff game), the Partitions have proven to be the best all in one design. The 140's with the protected back core should be plenty to penetrate the bear/hogs, and still be plenty flat shooting with a soft nose for the white tails. Deke. | |||
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