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Originally posted by 45/70 Thumper:
www.hornady.com/story.php?s=792

And the Flex-Tip bullet as a componet!

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Originally posted by vapodog:

I'm a tad disappointed however that they aren't making them slightly lighter than traditional weights as these bullets should be capable of higher speeds.....however.....Barnes might be looking over their shoulder!

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Remember the Y2K scam? Well "global warming" and "lead-free environment" are just two more examples of ways the people who fail at big time business or politics finagle ways to control the rest of us...and feed their lust for power.

My opinion. And will be tomorrow, too.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Remember the Y2K scam? Well "global warming" and "lead-free environment" are just two more examples of ways the people who fail at big time business or politics finagle ways to control the rest of us...and feed their lust for power.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Well I'm glad I don't have many years left. All this joyfully caving in to politically correct BS is making me ill.

"Send not for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee!" "Every man stands on the edge of his own grave." Both by brother Robbie Burns.

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All copper bullets are really hard on the rifling

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Originally posted by Hot Core:

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Well I'm glad I don't have many years left. All this joyfully caving in to politically correct BS is making me ill.

"Send not for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee!" "Every man stands on the edge of his own grave." Both by brother Robbie Burns.

Snap out of it AC. W-a-y toooo much doom and gloom in your recent posts. We all get things wrong with us as we age.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
You are DOOMED and have spent your LAST penny if you shoot all copper bullets.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
..They are expressing a philosophy about how a man should live every day of his life. Like every day was his last,

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and so he will be remembered the way he'd like to be remembered: Forgiving, thoughtful,

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charitable to his neighbors and others in need, bound by his word, hard working, etc., etc.

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As to my age and health, the health is failing severely, so relief will be exactly that. I will not die, though, just some day pass on to the next step of the journey designed by the Great Architect when the time comes, with joy at having been here, but looking forward to the next phase as well. So I do not fear the change, but do not wish to hasten it either...I'll leave the timing to the Architect, while I do what I've been placed here to do.

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Originally posted by Hot Core:

By the way, if these Hornady Politically Correct Bullets(PCBs) shoot and perform on Game as well as their excellent Lead Core bullets, that might just drive the cost down on ALL the PCBs. Don't need PCBs myself, but some do seem to work right well - occasionally.

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The poor country girl was just a moonshine whiskey maker...but he loved her still!

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Im sure that Hornady will make them more affordable than the swollen heads @ Barnes, that doesnt mean that Im suddenly going to change my mind about having no use for monolithics though. I could see Hornady droping their entire leaded line eventually for this stuff but I certianly hope not. They are heavily vested in the leaded line for sure. I seriously doubt if they will kill that lead bullet ash cow anytime soon if ever.

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I already shoot mostly Remingtons so no need to fret about that.

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Originally posted by Paul Brasky:
Hot Core, It was John Donne and it IS important to get things right as there's so much misinformation on the web; e.g., some loading data.

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Originally posted by swheeler:
Either start shooting mostly Speers or change you screen name to Cor Lokt

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They don't "give" like lead jacketed bullets.I find that the accuracy life of the barrel is reduced.

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but folks who like the x51 family have fewer super-premium options.

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Originally posted by Gerard:
As far as being politically correct, GSC has been making copper monos since the early 90s. Not to be PC, but because too many failures were seen with other types, and not just with jacketed lead bullets. To tar all copper mono manufacturers with the PC brush, just because of a particular situation that has arisen in the last year or so is not taking historical facts into account.



THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT ALSO MISSES THE POINT. THE POINT WAS OBJECTION AGAINST THE MANY WHO JUST ROLL OVER AND "PLAY IT SAFE" RATHER THAN TRYING TO THROW A MONKEY WRENCH INTO THE WORKS OF THE POLITICAL MACHINES WHICH WILL MANIPULATE THE "FEEL GOOD", "GREEN", B.S. TO ELIMINATE ALL BULLETS...FIRST THE LEAD ONES, THEN ???

After the first legislation is passed, they will not go away and leave us gun owners alone. They will be encouraged by any success to come back and take more an more rights, not just gun rights. they'll just take all the rest of the gun rights FIRST.
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There are some calibers and applications where jacketed lead remains the bullet of choice. I also use them. Where do we go if they become unavailable?

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One needs to be polite, but they also need to make several points:

1 - That HE (you) voted for the Congress member, because of the economy and the war, or whatever.

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Originally posted by duckboat:

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One needs to be polite, but they also need to make several points:

1 - That HE (you) voted for the Congress member, because of the economy and the war, or whatever.

If you voted for a democratic member of congress because of the war or the economy, despite their 2nd amendment opposition, then writing a letter will do no good. The member of congress is now elected because so many gun owners ignored the 2nd Amendment position of their candidate. You must sleep in the bed you made, for yourself and others who did the right thing by voting for pro-gun rights candidates.

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This, to me, is code for "so give up the fight and let yourself get screwed". Sorry, but I don't buy it.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:

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Originally posted by Gerard:
As far as being politically correct, GSC has been making copper monos since the early 90s. Not to be PC, but because too many failures were seen with other types, and not just with jacketed lead bullets. To tar all copper mono manufacturers with the PC brush, just because of a particular situation that has arisen in the last year or so is not taking historical facts into account.



THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT ALSO MISSES THE POINT. THE POINT WAS OBJECTION AGAINST THE MANY WHO JUST ROLL OVER AND "PLAY IT SAFE" RATHER THAN TRYING TO THROW A MONKEY WRENCH INTO THE WORKS OF THE POLITICAL MACHINES WHICH WILL MANIPULATE THE "FEEL GOOD", "GREEN", B.S. TO ELIMINATE ALL BULLETS...FIRST THE LEAD ONES, THEN ???

After the first legislation is passed, they will not go away and leave us gun owners alone. They will be encouraged by any success to come back and take more an more rights, not just gun rights. they'll just take all the rest of the gun rights FIRST.
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There are some calibers and applications where jacketed lead remains the bullet of choice. I also use them. Where do we go if they become unavailable?

May I suggest that those who live in the U.S. and claim to be dedicated shooters had best get off their collective asses and start writing their new Democratic Congress-people NOW, before ANY legislation comes down that sewer pipe?

One needs to be polite, but they also need to make several points:

1 - That HE (you) voted for the Congress member, because of the economy and the war, or whatever. So you are one who supports him/her , WHEN THEY DO THE RIGHT THINGS. Say that whether you did or not. They lie to and about us all the time; turn about is fair play. This is a war to end or save our freedom, depending on who wins. It is not a time to be meticulously innocent. Just like tactics in shooting wars, you need to both fool and scare the fight out of the enemy.

2 - That the mid-term elections are less than two years away.

3 - That you will both donate campaign money and vote against the Congress-person in that coming mid-term election if he/she votes for ANY ant-gun legislation.

4 - That the electorate put the congress-person in office and it WILL take him/her out of office if they shaft those who's interests and lifestyles they are elected & paid to represent.

After the legislation is introduced is TOO LATE to begin making the bastards nervous.

And then get friends and family who live at different addresses than yours to write with the same messages in their own words.

AC