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I've got a line on some once fired nickel .444 Marlin brass, to use in my .375 JDJ Encore. I've never cared for nickel brass much and don't use it on a regular basis. I was just wondering how well it will work to neck down and fire form, or am I asking for a whole lot of headaches?
 
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The short answer is NO, Nickel brass is not worth the headaches it creates, like brittle necks and flaking.

Regular brass, in my opinion, is MUCH better than nickle plated.
 
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The short answer is NO, Nickel brass is not worth the headaches it creates, like brittle necks and flaking.

Regular brass, in my opinion, is MUCH better than nickle plated.


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I don't like nickle either for the same reasons.
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Nickle plated brass is enjoyed by BPCR shooters and other folds that may expose loaded ammo to corrosive environments.
I personally don't like it an would never use it unless it was dirt cheap. I don't think it is very good for your dies unless you keep it exceptionally clean. The interior of the necks have rougher texture which can't be good for your bullets.
 
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I like nickel cases, but I would not neck them down or fireform them into a different caliber. They clean up very easily but you do have to chamfer the case necks. I have had nickel 38 spl. cases flake on me. I would not pay extra for them.
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I've necked nickel .308 down to .243 in a single stroke, never lost a case, no flaking, and those cases are still going strong.

I like nickel cases just fine. I use them to one extent or another in .22 Hornet, .222, .243, .270, .30-06, and in every handgun caliber I've ever loaded (except I've never found them in .32-20).

Some people point out that nickel case are not well-adapted to excessive sizing (repeatedly reducing a case far below the size of the chamber). I got news for you -- neither are unplated brass cases, Virginia.

As for going from a straight-walled parent to a bottlenecked case, how well any case does that depends on its metallurgical composition and its ductility (as well as the finish of the die and the efficacy of the lubrication). The nickel plating will have negligible effect.
 
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I've necked nickel .308 down to .243 in a single stroke, never lost a case, no flaking, and those cases are still going strong.

I like nickel cases just fine. I use them to one extent or another in .22 Hornet, .222, .243, .270, .30-06, and in every handgun caliber I've ever loaded (except I've never found them in .32-20).

Some people point out that nickel case are not well-adapted to excessive sizing (repeatedly reducing a case far below the size of the chamber). I got news for you -- neither are unplated brass cases, Virginia.

As for going from a straight-walled parent to a bottlenecked case, how well any case does that depends on its metallurgical composition and its ductility (as well as the finish of the die and the efficacy of the lubrication). The nickel plating will have negligible effect.
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I haven't tried to size it to other carlibers but I have no problem using it. Some people claim it's a bear to trim. I have the sinclair inserts that tell you your rifles chamber trim length and never have to trim more than once on a set of brass and actually sometimes never so that takes that complaint away for me.
I actually like the way it cleans up fast...looks good... and resizes super smooth.
 
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I use it only for ammo that will be carried in wet climates ... but that will not be used heavily. That way, the plate flaking problem does not become important.

I would not form cases from it.


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I use Nickel brass to identify specific "warshot" hunting loads.

or loads for a specific rifle.

Would I reform nickel brass?

No.

But If I had access to some nickel 444 Marlin brass I wouldn't toss it either.

I'd give it to someone with a 444Marlin.

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I like nickel cases, but I would not neck them down or fireform them into a different caliber. They clean up very easily but you do have to chamfer the case necks. I have had nickel 38 spl. cases flake on me. I would not pay extra for them.
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Yep, wouldn't use them for forming another case. But, nickle cases are around for a reason. All you have to do is leave your plain brass casing in a wet leather cartridge loop once and you'll understand.

NP cases clean up much better, but actually have less neck friction (not more) so you have keep that in mind when neck-sizing. After about 10 reloadings or so the case mouths will start to flake. I love them in 45-70 used for hunting.


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I like nickel cases, but I would not neck them down or fireform them into a different caliber. They clean up very easily but you do have to chamfer the case necks. I have had nickel 38 spl. cases flake on me. I would not pay extra for them.
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Yep, wouldn't use them for forming another case. But, nickle cases are around for a reason. All you have to do is leave your plain brass casing in a wet leather cartridge loop once and you'll understand.

NP cases clean up much better, but actually have less neck friction (not more) so you have keep that in mind when neck-sizing. After about 10 reloadings or so the case mouths will start to flake. I love them in 45-70 used for hunting.



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My only experience with Nickel brass was with my .338-06. When I got the rifle I used it only in it to keep from getting it mixed up with my .30-06 ammo. I wound up buying some properly headstamped Norma brass for my .338, and I tried necking the stuff back down for use in my 8mm-06 and couldn't get it some of them chamber. I just didn't want to get 100 pieces of once fired and find out that I have the same problem trying to get them to chamber.
 
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The best accuracy out of my 243AI is using nickel plated brass, with everything else being equal. (same powder, bullet,case length).

Don't know why, it just worked in this gun.
 
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