Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.

Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.

Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"

Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"

IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"

IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"

So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.

The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

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Originally posted by Terry P:
Went to the range yesterday and tried different loads in a pre64 Win .

Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.

Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.

Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"

Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"

IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"

IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"

So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.

The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Terry P:
Went to the range yesterday and tried different loads in a pre64 Win .

Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.

Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.

Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"

Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"

IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"

IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"

So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.

The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

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Also, using CCI 200 primers for the '06 will generally reduce peak pressure, with little or no change in muzzle velocity.

The 61gr showed no bad pressure signs ...flat primers but nothing else. I did see a max. load for the 180gr bullets ..62gr Rel22...I think in the new Hornady manual?

I have another 30-06 being built with a 26" Walther barrel but it will be a few months before I can try that one.

MM

I've always reserved Re-22 for magnum cartridges or others that were at or near over-bore...i.e. the .270 Win.

Check the data for yourself at:

recipes.alliantpowder.com

Good luck,
RSY

RL-19, 61gr, 2784 fps
RL-22, 63gr, 2902 fps

The Alliant data on their website shows highest velocities for 180 gr bullets with RL-19. But, compare the pressures between the RL-19 and RL-22 data listed. The RL-19 loads are pushing about 7000 lbs psi higher than the RL-22. You can safely reach higher velocities with RL-22 by working up incrementally and checking for pressure signs. Norma and Winchester brass seem to have the best capacities, in my experience.

MM

[This message has been edited by MontanaMarine (edited 05-12-2002).]

[This message has been edited by rickt300 (edited 05-13-2002).]

But the best way to get maximum velocity is to pack a case with a slow burning powder and find the near maximum pressure for that rifle/case/primer/temperture combination.