30-06 results....Rel 22

11 May 2002, 04:54

<Terry P>

Went to the range yesterday and tried different loads in a pre64 Win .

Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.

Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.

Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"

Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"

IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"

IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"

So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.

The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

11 May 2002, 05:13

<toto>

quote:
Originally posted by Terry P:
Went to the range yesterday and tried different loads in a pre64 Win .
Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.
Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.
Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"
Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"
IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"
IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"
So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.
The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

11 May 2002, 05:17

<toto>

quote:
Originally posted by Terry P:
Went to the range yesterday and tried different loads in a pre64 Win .
Fed. Prem. Factory 165gr Nos BT 1" group.
Remington Core Lokt factory 180 and 150 gr.
about 1 1/2"-2" groups.
Handloads with Win cases and Win standard primers: Barrel length 24"
Rel 22 61gr, 180 Nosler 2740fps 1 1/4"
IMR4831 57gr, 180 Nosler 2676fps 1 1/4"
IMR4320 53gr, 150 Nos BT 2955fps 1"
So I didn't get the increased velocity by using the Rel 22. I was disappointed with that. I could load up 2 more grains of IMR 4831 and be somewhere between 2700-2800fps.
The IMR loads with the 150gr and 180gr were hitting about the same poi but the Rel 22 load was printing about 1 1/2" higher. I'll probably settle on around 57.5gr- 58gr IMR 4831 for the 180gr bullets.

Terry I load 63gr r22 180nos bt avr.2829 24" sako 1"

11 May 2002, 06:25

denton

I am reluctant to go above the published 61 grain max on RL22. However, you might note that on the Alliant web page, they give the PSI for the 61 grain load, and it is quite a bit below maximum.

Also, using CCI 200 primers for the '06 will generally reduce peak pressure, with little or no change in muzzle velocity.

11 May 2002, 09:54

<Terry P>

Do you have any problem with the compressed load? My load of 61gr was over halfway up the neck in new Win. brass. I wonder if a bullet might work it's way forward, out of the case, when it's in the magazine and the rifle is shot a few times?
I must say that my rifle has hardly any throat and my OAL is about 3.2"

The 61gr showed no bad pressure signs ...flat primers but nothing else. I did see a max. load for the 180gr bullets ..62gr Rel22...I think in the new Hornady manual?

I have another 30-06 being built with a 26" Walther barrel but it will be a few months before I can try that one.

11 May 2002, 10:25

<MontanaMarine>

I load my 30-06 with 63 gr RL-22 under 190gr Sierra Matchking(moly) lit with a CCI 250. From my 26" Douglas barrel it averages 2902fps with no pressure signs. In fireformed Norma brass the 63 gr charge fills the caes to the bottom of the neck. My COL is 3.3" Accuracy averages sub MOA.

12 May 2002, 11:51

RSY

Usually Re-19 gives the fastest velocities with normal loadings in the .30-06 (in Alliant powders, that is). Why are you using Re-22, instead?

I've always reserved Re-22 for magnum cartridges or others that were at or near over-bore...i.e. the .270 Win.

Check the data for yourself at:

recipes.alliantpowder.com

Good luck,
RSY

12 May 2002, 12:39

<MontanaMarine>

Shooting 190gr Sierra Matchkings from my 30-06 I have had the following maximum safe performance with RL-19 and RL-22:

RL-19, 61gr, 2784 fps
RL-22, 63gr, 2902 fps

The Alliant data on their website shows highest velocities for 180 gr bullets with RL-19. But, compare the pressures between the RL-19 and RL-22 data listed. The RL-19 loads are pushing about 7000 lbs psi higher than the RL-22. You can safely reach higher velocities with RL-22 by working up incrementally and checking for pressure signs. Norma and Winchester brass seem to have the best capacities, in my experience.

[This message has been edited by MontanaMarine (edited 05-12-2002).]

12 May 2002, 13:31

<eldeguello>

I get excellent results from a heavy load of RE 22 and 175-grain bullets in a 7X57mm Ruger No. 1A. However, it is a heavily compressed load. This does not seem to cause any problems.

12 May 2002, 15:58

<Terry P>

MontanaMarine,
Have you ever tried any 150 gr bullets in your '06? Just wondering. That rifle of yours is gettin those 190's out pretty fast. (to say the least)

14 May 2002, 02:32

rickt300

My elk load for years has been the 180 grain speer spitzer over 59 grains of H4831 and a cci250 primer in remington cases. My rifle is a 03A3 springfield with a two groove barrel that is 23 inches long and I get 2850 fps out of it with no pressure signs. This rifle has a pretty long throat.

[This message has been edited by rickt300 (edited 05-13-2002).]

14 May 2002, 05:16

<Don Martin29>

The velocities listed for the 30/06 in the Nosler manual got me to buy a container of RL 22 but I have not tried it. On second thought the slight extra velocity has a cost in borderline safety and funtioning.

But the best way to get maximum velocity is to pack a case with a slow burning powder and find the near maximum pressure for that rifle/case/primer/temperture combination.