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They were not as smart as they thought they were

Smart or stupid has nothing to do with your banishment around here. If you can’t play nice, you’re out of here but that takes a while. You have to work at getting kicked off this forum.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by vapodog:

They were not as smart as they thought they were...

Roll EyesWho is??? homer roger


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You have to work at getting kicked off this forum.

This thread is about Hot Core and as pointed out earlier.....he's still an active poster....he isn't banned.


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He used to be on HuntAmerica when it was running big time.

I found his info geberally good. I have always agreed with him that ultimately the brass is the test for pressure. If any one does not believe that then do the following:

1) Pull a factory round apart and deprime the case.

2) Anneal the case head.

3) Reload the round with the same powder charge but obviously a different primer.

For those not familiar with this the result will be the brass will show up as a massive overload.....yet the pressure according to a guage will be OK.
 
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Mike McGuire wrote: "I have always agreed with him [Hot Core] that ultimately the brass is the test for pressure."

Well, I'd suggest that you don't try a Contender or similar action. If you use brass as a guide for pressure safety, you'll have wrecked the gun LONG before you make the brass fail. While some of HC's info was good, he simply could not accept that the measurements he so voraciously touted as gospel were merely a tool and NOT the final word in pressures.


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Golly! Even when he is not here he certainly draws a lot of attention. popcornroger


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Golly! Even when he is not here he certainly draws a lot of attention. popcornroger


Yup Roger.....it's the way of things.....at least some things anyway....

BTW.....my plane to Alaska is getting closer all the time....I'll be fishing just north of your ole stomping grounds...


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Golly! Even when he is not here he certainly draws a lot of attention. popcornroger


True, but this forum has been dead for quite some time. This HC thread just gave you guys an excuse to post some more worthless none relaoding shit. No real loading threads going on here, just the same old same old shit, HC vs XXX.
You guys are pathetic to say the least.
 
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This HC thread just gave you guys an excuse to post some more worthless none relaoding shit. No real loading threads going on here, just the same old same old shit, HC vs XXX.
You guys are pathetic to say the least.

An interesting comment from a guy that has posted no less than thirteen times on this thread.


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I posted a new/old question several days ago and have recieved 4 responses

Yes.....this place is dead


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This HC thread just gave you guys an excuse to post some more worthless none relaoding shit. No real loading threads going on here, just the same old same old shit, HC vs XXX.
You guys are pathetic to say the least.

An interesting comment from a guy that has posted no less than thirteen times on this thread.


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This HC thread just gave you guys an excuse to post some more worthless none relaoding shit. No real loading threads going on here, just the same old same old shit, HC vs XXX.
You guys are pathetic to say the least.

An interesting comment from a guy that has posted no less than thirteen times on this thread.


True and I repeated myself several times as well. Shame on me.
 
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Golly! Even when he is not here he certainly draws a lot of attention. popcornroger


Yup Roger.....it's the way of things.....at least some things anyway....

BTW.....my plane to Alaska is getting closer all the time....I'll be fishing just north of your ole stomping grounds...

beerKnock their tails off and take photos. You shouldn't be too far from Kabluey . beerroger


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This HC thread just gave you guys an excuse to post some more worthless none relaoding shit. No real loading threads going on here, just the same old same old shit, HC vs XXX.
You guys are pathetic to say the least.

An interesting comment from a guy that has posted no less than thirteen times on this thread.


Took the words right outa my mouth.
 
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Hotcore's mother has got to be proud.

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Hotcore's mother has got to be proud.

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He has a mother?????? Poor woman.
 
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Maybe he is just busy with the DNR explaining those references to the "many thousands" of deer he killed...

I tried finding the original post where Hot Core made that claim. I don't know if I really found it, but what I saw made me think HC said it in jest. Than stuck to it, maybe too proud to take it back.

He attacked me, claiming that his competitive shooting experience was longer and more extensive than mine, and therefore his expertise was greater in the particular topic at hand.

And I don’t think so.

If I meet him at Camp Perry this year, how would I recognize him?
 
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what I saw made me think HC said it in jest.

This is exactly what transpired......and the race was on....

I know this for a fact


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If I meet him at Camp Perry this year, how would I recognize him?


He is an old man....his name is Glen


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If I meet him at Camp Perry this year, how would I recognize him?


He is an old man....his name is Glen


archerHe'll be carrying a bow and quiver full of turkey feathered arrows. rotflmoroger


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If I meet him at Camp Perry this year, how would I recognize him?


He is an old man....his name is Glen


Hey Glen: I am shooting an old man's game this year, Small Bore Prone. If you are going let me know.
 
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Bottom line............

AR used to be at the top of the list of sites but now it is at the bottom and seldom gets visited

All the personality-challenged uninteresting blowhards that ran rcamuglia off and Hot Core tagged seem to have won the day. There are lots of other sites like Long Range Hunting, 24 Hour, Nosler etc etc that are much more alive and interesting.

Perhaps someone will come along that will pick up the interest but the fact is they would have to be much like rc or HC


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Hot Core has left the site of his own volition (i.e., he was not banned).

Instead of publicly lamenting his absence in an off-topic thread, why not privately ask him to come back?

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Instead of publicly lamenting his absence in an off-topic thread, why not privately ask him to come back?

George,
If you read all the posts it should be clear that not everyone is exactly "lamenting his absence".....some might even be cheering same.....

Yes....I emailed him a link to this thread and asked him to comment but it seems he currently wishes to abstain.

There's a lot to be learned about participation on the forums from folks like Hot Core and a few others that have gone by the wayside....but then most of us are hunters and shooters and reloaders.....not necessarily sociologists.....

I agree with Woods.....we're missing a flavorful ingredient to the forums in the loss of Hot Core and Rcamuglia....


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Bottom line............

AR used to be at the top of the list of sites but now it is at the bottom and seldom gets visited

All the personality-challenged uninteresting blowhards that ran rcamuglia off and Hot Core tagged seem to have won the day. There are lots of other sites like Long Range Hunting, 24 Hour, Nosler etc etc that are much more alive and interesting.

Perhaps someone will come along that will pick up the interest but the fact is they would have to be much like rc or HC


Remember Steve Riccardelli? A very knowledgeable and helpful guy. He bailed too, got tired of some of the whiny little piss ant know it alls that used to (and some still do) hang out here.
 
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Mick would know about being an asshole...

That said, some of you here still have not learned about life cycles.

For everything, there is a small, intimate beginning. Then, the multitudes observe the early people, lacking a central hobby to build their lives around, take up the chosen "New door to Nirvana." The activity becomes the new national pastime, the old guys see the folks with too much $$$ and time on their hands sweep in and overpay for something unique and special to take into competition for the Alpha Male title, and fade away. The new thing loses its fanatic following, and over a couple years, the activity reverts to the original group that truly enjoyed the activity, and the crowd, still lacking that core activity that they can wrap their lives and spare cash around, moves on to the next great thing.

Remember the craze for Honda cars?
Remember the craze for carphones?
Remember buckskinners and the Hawken rifle craze?
Remember breast implants and the competition for trophy wives by all those mostly impotent 55-70 year old dudes with $$$? That one is still going strong, especially at DSC and SCI conventions.
That one reminds me of a story I heard. A man and his wife, both sixty, got a divorce after forty years of marriage. The old man moves to Florida and takes up with some thirty year old woman. The old woman stays in Texas and takes up with some thirty year old guy that does the yard and house maintenence.
Christmas Eve the old man calls his ex, and is woofing about this 30 year old girlfriend. The exwife tells him about her 30 year old boy toy. Then, she asks the old man if he can still do simple math in his head?
He says, certainly. Then she asks him how many times 60 goes into 30. He says, it doesn't. Then she asks him how many times 30 goes into 60. He says "Twice". She says "That's right, have a Merry Christmas" and hangs up on him...


Most recently, remember the Harley Davidson insanity that swept the nation starting about twenty-five years ago?

My favorite T-shirt for fifteen years or longer was the one that had "If you ain't ridin' a Harley, you ain't shit!" That one always left me with the appropriate judgment; if you ride a Harley, does that mean you are shit?

This forum peaked as a free exchange of information and experiences about mid-2010. There are only so many cartridges and animals to be hunted with them, and telling of things relating to the two.

I hunted RSA in early May of this year. After some pressure, I wrote it up. Most of the comments were from people saying that catching the flu sucked, and a bit of faint praise for not letting it ruin the hunts.

There simply is nothing new, under the sun.

God has blessed us all, and life is a wonderful thing. Every day is a blessing, to be treasured. I was nineteen, and assigned to a MACV-SOG unit, Ly Tin 17. The first time I saw a young Marine and five NVA soldiers get shot dead, I realized that. It has stuck with me to this day. That is reality...
 
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If there is nothing new to talk about, it's because we are not shooting enough!
 
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vapodog,

I did read the entire thread. Yes, there are people who do not miss Hot Core or rcamuglia (who was banned for cause).

However there is no disputing that Hot Core (and Steve Ricciardelli) no longer participate for their own reasons.

Threads like this one, started by 'fanboys', are pointless in that the person they miss is the one who has walked away.

BTW, we all know that participating in an internet forum exposes you to people who are likely to rub you the wrong way. A thick skin comes in handy.

Some people are know-it-all blowhards; some people are ne'er-do-wells. 99% of the participants fall in between the two extremes.

George


 
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GeorgeS,
You prompted me to start a new thread in miscellaneous.... here it is

This thread is way off topic and maybe the discussion should be taken elsewhere...but the issues bought up are quite relevant!


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Mick would know about being an asshole...

That said, some of you here still have not learned about life cycles.

For everything, there is a small, intimate beginning. Then, the multitudes observe the early people, lacking a central hobby to build their lives around, take up the chosen "New door to Nirvana." The activity becomes the new national pastime, the old guys see the folks with too much $$$ and time on their hands sweep in and overpay for something unique and special to take into competition for the Alpha Male title, and fade away. The new thing loses its fanatic following, and over a couple years, the activity reverts to the original group that truly enjoyed the activity, and the crowd, still lacking that core activity that they can wrap their lives and spare cash around, moves on to the next great thing.

Remember the craze for Honda cars?
Remember the craze for carphones?
Remember buckskinners and the Hawken rifle craze?
Remember breast implants and the competition for trophy wives by all those mostly impotent 55-70 year old dudes with $$$? That one is still going strong, especially at DSC and SCI conventions.
That one reminds me of a story I heard. A man and his wife, both sixty, got a divorce after forty years of marriage. The old man moves to Florida and takes up with some thirty year old woman. The old woman stays in Texas and takes up with some thirty year old guy that does the yard and house maintenence.
Christmas Eve the old man calls his ex, and is woofing about this 30 year old girlfriend. The exwife tells him about her 30 year old boy toy. Then, she asks the old man if he can still do simple math in his head?
He says, certainly. Then she asks him how many times 60 goes into 30. He says, it doesn't. Then she asks him how many times 30 goes into 60. He says "Twice". She says "That's right, have a Merry Christmas" and hangs up on him...


Most recently, remember the Harley Davidson insanity that swept the nation starting about twenty-five years ago?

My favorite T-shirt for fifteen years or longer was the one that had "If you ain't ridin' a Harley, you ain't shit!" That one always left me with the appropriate judgment; if you ride a Harley, does that mean you are shit?

This forum peaked as a free exchange of information and experiences about mid-2010. There are only so many cartridges and animals to be hunted with them, and telling of things relating to the two.

I hunted RSA in early May of this year. After some pressure, I wrote it up. Most of the comments were from people saying that catching the flu sucked, and a bit of faint praise for not letting it ruin the hunts.

There simply is nothing new, under the sun.

God has blessed us all, and life is a wonderful thing. Every day is a blessing, to be treasured. I was nineteen, and assigned to a MACV-SOG unit, Ly Tin 17. The first time I saw a young Marine and five NVA soldiers get shot dead, I realized that. It has stuck with me to this day. That is reality...
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What I buy, when I buy it, how much I buy, and what I want to do with it is my business. As long as I don't endanger myself or someone else, it is called "private property." If you Bloomberg nannys want to impose "Big GulP" restrictions on me you can shove it.

I don't buy excessively, but I buy and store enough to support my reloading addiction for at least 3 years. I have been through too many feast and famine episodes to act otherwise.

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What I buy, when I buy it, how much I buy, and what I want to do with it is my business. As long as I don't endanger myself or someone else, it is called "private property." If you Bloomberg nannys want to impose "Big GulP" restrictions on me you can shove it.

I don't buy excessively, but I buy and store enough to support my reloading addiction for at least 3 years. I have been through too many feast and famine episodes to act otherwise.

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I really like hot core. I've had heated debates with others on the forum but they all ended well where we laughed about it.

Vapo,

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VIVA the 338 Federale!

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While some of HC's info was good, he simply could not accept that the measurements he so voraciously touted as gospel were merely a tool and NOT the final word in pressures.
Or that OCW is pretty much BS that will have you chasing your tail 9 times out of 10. Roll Eyes

I got so tired of him constantly flogging that BS in the face of examples of where they don't work horse

I feel sorry for all the poor bastards who took his advice verbatim and wasted hours at the bench & range.

And he thinks he's smarter than Ken Howell or Homer Powley! Roll Eyes
 
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VIVA the 338 Federale!

Big Grin


Actually, since I bought a 350 Rem Mag, the Federale lost some of it's shine.



 
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the Federale lost some of it's shine.

Scott....it had so little in the first place that it just couldn't lose much afterwards....it probably looks akin to some schedule 40 water pipe by now..... stir animal

and for those that don't know.....this is all in fun dancing

Hey Scott.....I'm a tad envious of that .350 Magunm..... tu2


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Too funny. I haven't had much time to play with that 350 yet. My gun range currently has a ban on anything over 7mm. Long story but they are fighting the city so this year it's small bore fun again. Next year I'll try to break out the medium bores and have some fun.



 
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What I buy, when I buy it, how much I buy, and what I want to do with it is my business. As long as I don't endanger myself or someone else, it is called "private property." If you Bloomberg nannys want to impose "Big GulP" restrictions on me you can shove it.

I don't buy excessively, but I buy and store enough to support my reloading addiction for at least 3 years. I have been through too many feast and famine episodes to act otherwise.

Barstooler


Wrong thread


Agree! My computer has been giving me the fritz lately....but the two tumbleers of single malt scotch may be the root cause of the problem. dancing

Will repost.

Barstooler
 
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Agree! My computer has been giving me the fritz lately....but the two tumbleers of single malt scotch may be the root cause of the problem. dancing

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