Anyone that belittles a magnum is about as dumb as the one that belittles the 30-06...There is a place for both and, in fact, if the shooter can shoot a magnum, then he is in better shape than anyone with a 30-06 under any conditions..

I wouldn't be without my 06 or any of my magnums...

this is an old BS arguement that comes from reading too many gun magazines...I know, old granpaw shot everything with his 25-20, but it truth grandpaw was smarter than you think, he would have traded his a$$ and half of Georgia for a 300 Win. Hell, Indians killed everything with bows but when the Comancheros started running guns, the bow hit the ground...

Ray ----- I could not have said it any better, in fact I tried and didn't. I shoot them all, in fact the Magnum shooter needs to shoot the rifles that kick less on a regular basis in order to keep his trigger finger sensitive to the trigger. Shoot a .308 or 30-06 for two months solid then shoot a .222, you will notice "trigger itis". The same thing happens to Magnum shooters, therefore periodicaly you need to keep yourself honest by going back to the soft recoilers and recalibrate yourself. The secret to fine shooting is practice, practice, and more practice. "You can shoot anything you pick up, regardless of size, with practice.

Bartsche,
Apparantly you did not read my post very carefully, as I clearly stated that I still hunt deer with a 25-35, but I did learn to shoot big bores and handle recoil along the way...Has nothing to do with a 14 year old boy for petes sake, your out to lunch on that one, has nothing to do with my post but lets just call it a misunderstanding on both our parts....

What I am saying is that there is a place for big bores, medium bores and small bores in hunting big game, and that old BS about uncle John killed all his elk with a 22 hornet is just that BS, he probably wounded a as many as he killed if the truth were known...

That's all I'm saying...

I took my 14 year old grandson Elk hunting in 2003. I promised him when he was big enough to handle the rigors of a November hunt in Colorado he could go. Then he was 6 ft. and 160 pounds. He practiced with me with all my rifles from .257 Wby which he has killed some 30 deer with, to 30-30, .308, 30-06, up through .358 STA. He picked a .338 Lapua and shot it considerably, meaning approx. 30 rounds and felt he and the rifle could do the job. The first morning at first light he filled his cow tag with a perfect 150 yard shot. He will state that shooting the rifle that much adequately prepared him for the hunt, (the rifle will shoot one holers at 100 yards with 240 grain North Forks at 3150 fps) and when he pulled the trigger on the cow he never felt recoil. Of course he claims the rifle as his Elk rifle, and that is OK with me, because each of my five grandsons and a new grandaughter will each inherit a good shooting iron from me someday. I still consider my Marlin 30-30 the perfect woods Deer rifle and shoot it often, but I also like to step on up the bigger stuff if I go to Alaska, Canada, or Africa. I like a very large bullet going fast for the dangerous stuff, and hopefully I will be prepared to shoot it instinctively when I have to. "You can shoot anything you pick up, regardless of size, with practice.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Bartsche,
Apparantly you did not read my post very carefully
That's all I'm saying...

Actually ,Ray I think we are both of the same mind.

I was a little surprised how many twists and turns this thread took. No foul taken or intended ,Ray roger

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Originally posted by phurley5:
I took my 14 year old grandson Elk hunting in 2003. Then he was 6 ft. and 160 pounds. can shoot anything you pick up, regardless of size, with practice.

That,s one big young brier!!Nice posting roger

At the range, I often run into the "Big bore" guys who get the biggest magnum cartrige they can find.

A month ago, I ran into a guy sighting in his .300 Rem Ultra Mag. I talked with him awhile, and he said that he just used it to hunt feral hogs. Nothing wrong with using a .300 Rem Ultra Mag for hogs, but a 30-06 or .308 will do just as fine for cheaper.

I was playing with my Savage .223, and both this genltemen and his buddy couldn't understand how I could group anything out at a 100 yards. Turns out that he was using the Mag at a range of 25 yards.