I thought about giving the new Accubond 30 Cal-200 grain load a try in my 06' or 308 Win. Does anyone have a 200 grain Load for either?

ABM,
I load Nosler 200 grain Partitions into the '06, so it may be a good place to start for the Accubonds. These are max loads in my Remington 725 and are above what most books list as maximum, so please start 10% lower and work up slowly.

All loads are with R-P cases, CCI-200 primer and 200gr Partitions,
58.0 gr IMR 4350 2678 fps, 3.370 OAL
52.0 gr Reloader 15 2655 fps, 3.370 OAL

Of these two loads, I prefer the IMR 4350. The pressures rise much faster on the R-15 with this heavy bullet. Hope this helps.

BigBullet

I load the Sierra Match King from time to time, and also use IMR 4350.

1)LC N.M. brass
2)F210 primer
3)200 Sierra MK
4)COL:3.30"
5)54.0 IMR 4350

Winchester M70 22" - Reduce 5% and work up slow...

200 gr. Speer Hot Cor @ 3.23" OAL
58.0 grs. Winchester WXR
F-C gold medal case
CCI BR-2 match primer
~
2583 fps avg., groups of 1.25" avg.

RIFLE WIN M70 26 INCH BARREL
200 GN NOSLER PART

LAPUA BRASS
FED 215
63 GN VV N165
MV 2820

LAPUA BRASS
WLRP
59 GN R 22
MV 2700

LAPUA BRASS
WLRP
59 GN VV 560
MV 2700

LAPUA BRASS
WLRP
60 GN WXR
2700 FPS
ALASKAN BUSH MAN keep away from the 4350 powders for the 200 gn proj the pressure spike is really sharp stick with R 22 WXR OR VV N165
I WOULD SUGGEST vv n165 it seems to slow for the 06 but from my testing it is the best powder at really low pressure
0 K SHOOTER who posts on H.A used this powder and he got much the same results as i did ...in fact he put me onto this load ...i got it pressure tested and pressure /velocity ratio is the best of any of the slow burning powders
if you want the pressure readings drop me a line i will see if i can dig them up

M98, would you elaborate a bit more on your warning away from 4350 type powders. I have always thought of N 160 as being similar to IMR 4350, and N 165 as close to the 4831 types. I burn a lot of 4350 in hunting loads in the '06, and have never had any complaints.

I like the V-V powders, and N165 is recommended for the '06 with heavy bullets. I also like the N500 powder types, but they seem to be aimed at the target weight bullets(168 grain in .30 cal)

pacrat
my comment related specifically for useing the 4350 powders with 200 gn projectiles in the 06....if i conveyed this was dangerous my apolagies ...i just feel there are much better powders to use in the 06 than 4350 when useing 200 gn proj as far as PRESSURE/VELOCITY ratio goes
just so you dont think i have a grudge against 4350 powders in the 06 i dont ...i just bought close to 150 lbs of H4350 but only to use with 180 gn proj
when i use 200 gn i stick with R22,VV 560 WXR or VV N165
i think you will find that vv n165 is a lot slower than R22 H 4831 etc and todate i would say it is the best powder to use with the 200 gn proj in the 06 ...others my diagree but i have got pressure data which shows me the facts so to speak
regards daniel

Thanks for the load data, the 30-06 w/200 grain bullets. I have always used IMR 4350 and RL 19 with my 06' w/150 to 180 grain bullets, but I have nevered loaded anything heavier like 200 or 220 grain bullets....so I am in new territory. Thanks for your advices.

I use old surplus 4831 ( I have 40 lbs of this stuff ) for 2655 FPS in my 22" barrel 30-06, with the new 200 gr. bullet and the 200 gr. Noslers....thats cooking right up there with the 180s.

Modern H4831 with 60 grs.gets 2601 with a 200 gr. bullet according to the new Swift Reloading manual..that seems pretty stout to me, but thats what it says.

I have found 4831 to be a most accruate and consistant powder and an all around powder in the 30-06, along with H414..

As with anything else in reloading start 10% lower and work up in your rifle.

Instead of starting a new forum post, I hope it is okay to just keep this one going. I have Nosler AccuBond 200 grain rounds for my 30-06. I have looked in my two books (Nosler and Speer) for reloading information. Neither book states anything about Varget. They both list Varget as a powder I can use for smaller 30-06 rounds, but nothing for the 200 grain. Hodgdon website has information for the 200 grain, where you can use Varget. Anyone have experience with Varget and 200 grain, and know why Varget isn't listed in either book for the 200 grain. I also have H414 on hand, which is listed in both books for the 200 grain. I really didn't want to have to buy more powder, so was hoping to go with what I have. My 8 pound of Varget is already opened...my 1 pound of H414 is not. I don't mind opening it, but before I did, I wanted input from anyone that has tried one or both of these powders.

RL 22 and MRP have worked for me. Nosler reloading manual for RL22, and Norma on the internet for MRP list loads.

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LAPUA BRASS FED 215 63 GN VV N165 MV 2820

M98, that is a hell-of-a-load. Tell us more.

Please share your pressure data, primer pocket life, etc.

Regards, AIU

Yeah...I see other powders to use, in fact RL19 is what Nosler says is the most accurate powder tested. I mainly was wondering about people that have used Hodgdon H414 or Varget and what their experiences were. Thank you.

Varget is a little fast for the 200 gr bullets, and you will give up about 75-100 fps compared to the H414. If accuracy is all you're worried about, Varget would be fine, but for a hunting load I'd try the H414 first.

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Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:

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LAPUA BRASS FED 215 63 GN VV N165 MV 2820

M98, that is a hell-of-a-load. Tell us more.

Please share your pressure data, primer pocket life, etc.

Regards, AIU

I would like to hear more about this one too. It might be something I use down the road. Nosler manual says 59.4 gr water is what round will hold...it also shows RL22 at 58 grains, 106%. I guess 63 gr would really be compressed.

When I get home I will see if I can get the pressure data , I should have it on file
thou I don't have any more N165

Daniel

I've used the 200 Speer bullet a bit and it really performs better than you would think an inexpensive bullet like that should, both accuracy wise and in game.My powder of choice is IMR 4831. H4831 is also very good. Max charge of the Hodgdon variety will be a couple grs more than the IMR version.

H414 works great in the 06. Will do the job with your 200's

I thought we used to have a "sticky" at the top of the reloading page that had a bunch of 30/06 loads including the 200 grain loads,?
M98 weren't you instrumental in that?

This is related
http://forums.accuratereloadin...2511043/m/8841095132

SNELL STORM
yes they used to be there , i think what happened was they guy that posted them his server went south or something and then they dissapeared....i still have got hard copies...!!!!

I used 54gr IMR 4350 witht he Sierra 200 SBT and Speer 200HC. I later went to 60gr R22 and the 200 Partition. Remington, Norma and Winchester cases for all, made no difference. I used a BR2 primer for all too.