What affects does rifling have on rifle dynamics versus a smooth bore?

Does rifling affect barrel torsional vibrations?

Does rifling affect barrel torsional Eigen frequencies?

Does rifling affect barrel bending vibrations?

Does rifling affect barrel bending Eigen frequencies?

Does rifling affect recoil?

Does rifling impart additional stresss to the barrel?

ASS_CLOWN

EDIT Note: thank you Puncher for straightening me out. I don't have the benefit of higher education being a simple uncertified mechanic, besides that grammar was never my strong suit.

A_C...if you knew the answer to all these questions.....what would you do with them? How would you use the information to better things....or...so what? Where are we going here?

It's just my semi polite way of asking....who cares?

Effect is the result. AFFECT is the action.

vapodog,

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if you knew the answer to all these questions.....what would you do with them?

I would be smarter than I am currently today. Not being a particularly intelligent individual, as my poor grammar clearly illustrated, I try very hard to get smarter everyday.

ASS_CLOWN

ASS CROWN, You should be smart enough by now, not to start another moronic thread that you know is going to be another pissing contest. You may very well know what you are talking about, but I doubt it. Why not try and get in step with the rest of the world.

Some of this higher engineering stuff just plain makes my head hurt!

BUTT BOY, Manfred Eigen was/is a noted German chemist who shared a Nobel Prize in 1967. Please tell us how he as a chemist became noted for his "frequencies" as pertaining to internal ballistics. We're all dying to know.

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Originally posted by ASS_CLOWN:
What affects does rifling have on rifle dynamics versus a smooth bore?

Does rifling affect barrel torsional vibrations?

Does rifling affect barrel torsional Eigen frequencies?

Does rifling affect barrel bending vibrations?

Does rifling affect barrel bending Eigen frequencies?

Does rifling affect recoil?

Does rifling impart additional stresss to the barrel?

ASS_CLOWN

EDIT Note: thank you Puncher for straightening me out. I don't have the benefit of higher education being a simple uncertified mechanic, besides that grammar was never my strong suit.

answer to all

IT DEPENDS


go buy some guns and find out

jeffe

A_C, please get some professional help to deal with your inferiority complex...

Craigster,

Wrong Herr Eigen. I suspect though if you did that much Google searching you turned up plenty of data on what Eigen frequencies and/or functions are.

I take it that NO ONE knows any of the answers to my questions. I base this comment upon the quality of replies I have thus far received. This truly shocks me as I have always thought that this forum contained the very brightest posters possessing the highest level of technical expertise with regard to ballistics (internal, external, and terminal). How can there be such expert opinions typed into the forum day in and day out, yet no one can answer my simple questions.

Interesting, very interesting.

rugeruser, please spare me the erroneous diagnosis (if anything, I suffer from a superiority complex). If anyone has an inferiority complex it would seem to be you. I'll tell you what, if it makes you feel better about yourself, keep telling yourself this about the ol' ASS_CLOWN. ASS_CLOWN is a simple <read stupid> uncertified mechanic and therefore knows NOTHING! I am a FAR better human/gun guru than that stupid ASS_CLOWN. Now repeat that until you feel good about being a "rugeruser". Hey craigster it may work for you too.

jeffeosso, the answer to the questions most definitely is NOT that "it depends"!! You are such a technical expert I figured you would be able to rattle off the answers to my simple questions in you sleep. Afterall, you is so much smerter tham me!



ASS_CLOWN

AC,
you leap to cunclussions again..

funny thing.. when no one answers your questions, you ASSUME that it's because they don't know..

hmm, it COULD be something else..


and, har, if

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the answer to the questions most definitely is NOT that "it depends"!!

then why don't you go log in as one of your other handles and fill them in...

that way it would look to the rest of the world like you are talking to yourself

jeffe

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1. I take it that NO ONE knows any of the answers to my questions.

2. rugeruser, please spare me the erroneous diagnosis (if anything, I suffer from a superiority complex).

3. ASS_CLOWN is a simple <read stupid> uncertified mechanic and therefore knows NOTHING! I am a FAR better human/gun guru than that stupid ASS_CLOWN.

ASS_CLOWN

To address the core of your assertions (I'm accustomed to people who use diversionary tactics to draw attention away from their insecurities)...

1. You assert that NO ONE knows the answer to you questions... it's also quite possible that the people who DO KNOW couldn't be bothered responding to your rants... I made the same mistake some time ago when I tried to help you with information regarding Bren Guns... Never again...

2. And a 'superiority complex' is...?

3. Quite possibly true, I'm not in a position to comment. However, your constant repetition of this 'mantra' would suggest that there is some truth in the statement.

I reiterate that you should consider seeking professional help with your insecurities...

Over to you...

rugeruser,

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You assert that NO ONE knows the answer to you questions... it's also quite possible that the people who DO KNOW couldn't be bothered responding to your rants... I made the same mistake some time ago when I tried to help you with information regarding Bren Guns... Never again...

That is possible, but considering the past performance of the "experts" here at AR NOT PROBABLE.

I bases my comments off of past experience and a statistical liklihood. I am very confident that your comments are based off of wishful thinking (kinda like a drowning man grasping for a straw).

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And a 'superiority complex' is...?

You tell me. Afterall, you are the one who is the "expert".

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Quite possibly true, I'm not in a position to comment. However, your constant repetition of this 'mantra' would suggest that there is some truth in the statement.

I reiterate that you should consider seeking professional help with your insecurities...

Like I said in the original post, if telling yourself that about me makes you feel good, have at it. I could not live with myself if I knew my posting had caused you emotional pain.

I will take up your advise and get help to. Calling Doctor Daniels, as in Jack Daniels.

By the way, thank you for the fun with the Bren back then too.

This recoil discussion we have had going on with the other thread reminds me very much of the "cook-off" thread we had with OPEN BOLT machine guns. Funny I was right on that one, and I am right with regard to the recoil (even though everyone else said I was full of shit). If you or any of the other "experts" knew the answers to the questions I started on this thread you would IMMEDIATELY understand that I am correct on the recoil thread too! Further proof that NO ONE knows the answers to the questions posed on this thread. I draw very few conclusions without SIGNIFICANT supporting facts!

Have a nice day, Dr. Jack Daniels and I are just now starting our morning session.

ASS_CLOWN

A_C, one thing I've learnt about 'experts' is that they don't hold themselves out be 'experts' - they have a 'body of knowledge that would suggest...' a certain approach to a topic...

They rarely make definitive statements, (unless there is an 'absolute truth' - which is a contradiction in terms to an 'expert')...

You fail to provide even the most basic information to support your hypotheses, nor are you prepared to supply any information to support your stance(s)...

You wrote:

"I draw very few conclusions without SIGNIFICANT supporting facts!"

Firstly, the term is 'supporting evidence', and secondly, just exactly what are your "SIGNIFICANT supporting facts!" ??

Bullshit is as bullshit does...

I can understand why you turn to the miserable company of JD... no-one else would be bothered... enjoy yourself...

Never a dull moment...

rugeruser,

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You fail to provide even the most basic information to support your hypotheses, nor are you prepared to supply any information to support your stance(s)...

There are 10 replies to this thread, and not one answers a single question I asked in the original post.

Now, the 'supporting evidence' is evident in almost every thread on the AR forums. There are a relatively small number of 'experts' who post on practically every topic.

I hope you are enjoying your trolling as much as I am enjoying feeding you line.

ASS_CLOWN

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I hope you are enjoying your trolling as much as I am enjoying feeding you line.

ASS_CLOWN

I'll let the members and moderators of this forum decide that issue - if they feel I'm 'trolling', then they can vote to have me removed from the forum.

If that occurs, I will have the decency to exit gracefully...

a---c, i just do not know and i'm an expert on that. you have not peaked my interest and i'm an expert on that. that's my story and i'm sticking to it.

A_C, put the banjo own, get yourself off the swing seat, and have a look at what happens when one of your daddy's puts a plough in the ground...

If that don't tell y'all what happens when a boolitt hits that there riflin', nothin' will...

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Originally posted by ASS_CLOWN:
What affects does rifling have on rifle dynamics versus a smooth bore? Yes.

Does rifling affect barrel torsional vibrations? yes, of course. The faster the twist, the more torque imparted to the barrel.

Does rifling affect barrel torsional Eigen frequencies? don't know this dude or his theory.

Does rifling affect barrel bending vibrations? Certainly without a doubt.

Does rifling affect barrel bending Eigen frequencies? Refer to #3

Does rifling affect recoil? Nope, don't see how it could.

Does rifling impart additional stresss to the barrel? If you're talking about stress in the steel, the different grove count and depth could stress the steel more than if it weren't rifled. Has anybody done any tests as to whether 2 grove, 4 grove or rate of twist causes stress. I bet the engineers at some gun companies know!

ASS_CLOWN

EDIT Note: thank you Puncher for straightening me out. I don't have the benefit of higher education being a simple uncertified mechanic, besides that grammar was never my strong suit.

Come on guys, lets try to answer AC ?'s

I'm cetainly no "expert", but after 59 years with all but 6 years of that as a shooter and reloader, I've formed some common sense feelings about those questions. I should have put this above the quote, but here goes.

Grizz,
Your "feelings" and "common sense" have nothing to do with what AC wants to know......Honestly, I`m not sure Ass_Clown knows what he`s looking for.

grizz,

Thank you for your comments. Eigen frequency refers to the principal frequency, or a natural frequency.

Ol' Joe,

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Your "feelings" and "common sense" have nothing to do with what AC wants to know......Honestly, I`m not sure Ass_Clown knows what he`s looking for.

I do find value in Grizz's comments. I also know exactly what I want.

ASS_CLOWN