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| I use no more than .003" neck tension. This is right at or into the lands. I don't crimp bullets and won't.
no-one on the benchrest circuit does,..and that is the proving grounds for accuracy. |
| Posts: 1496 | Location: behind the crosshairs | Registered: 01 August 2002 |
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| I like the Lee Factory crimps also, for the money it is well worth it. (some will argue I'm sure) I have found better results in my loads by at least using a light to medium crimp. |
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| This is the test result using the Lee Factory Crimp Die. See for yourself. The Lee Factory Crimp Die can and does increase accuracy. Run a test of your own. Load some with the Lee Die and some without. The Lee Die costs less than $10. If you don't like your results, you can sell it on Ebay for $20. http://www.accuratereloading.com/crimping.html |
| Posts: 1205 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 07 February 2004 |
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| Please don't take bench rest shooting as your guide. That group routinely loads into the 75,000 PSI range, and they would sell their soul for a reduction in group sizes of .05".
Very little of the "super accuracy" techniques used in 100 and 200 yard benchrest translate into field rifles. That includes neck turning, primer pocket uniforming, weighing brass, loading into the lands, etc, etc. JMO, Dutch. |
| Posts: 4564 | Location: Idaho Falls, ID, USA | Registered: 21 September 2000 |
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I have RCBS dies and a good source for RCBS products (cheap). Do they make crimping dies?
Hey BTH, There is a "Roll Crimp" already built into your Seating Die. You can learn about it in your Instructions that came with the Dies.
Most of these guys are talking about a slightly different Die though that "Lee" makes. It effectively "stakes" the case mouth into the sides of any Bullet whether it has a Cannelure or not. Same result as on factory ammo.
Lots of folks seem to be happy with the Lee Crimper, so good for them. I don't use it and am happy without it, so good for me.
I agree with all the above posts that mention it is simply a method to retard bullet release which alters the Powder Ignition. My Loads ignite just fine though and I've no desire to change what I've been doing for many years.
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Any of you guys using the Lee Crimper have any "Neck Split" problems? |
| Posts: 9920 | Location: Carolinas, USA | Registered: 22 April 2001 |
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| I like the Lee Crimp die, mainly because I target shoot, plink, and hunt all with the same loads in my rifle. If I'm out varminting or plinking, I tend to shoot 2 or 3 rounds, then top off the magazine. Having the crimp at the bullet's cannelure stops the bottom bullet from shifting in the case neck. |
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| "If you don't like your results, you can sell it on Ebay for $20." ROFLMAO.... Isn't that the truth? Idiots will buy used bullet molds that they know nothing about, for almost DOUBLE the cost of a brand new mold of the exact same bullet.... BUT THEY WON THE AUCTION!!! what a hoot.. |
| Posts: 323 | Location: N.Central Texas | Registered: 28 December 2002 |
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| I think that the fact that benchrest shooters do not crimp should answer this question.After all they want every last bit of accuracy that they can get. |
| Posts: 3104 | Location: alberta,canada | Registered: 28 January 2002 |
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| The real answer to the question of whether Crimping increases accuracy is sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. It is often worth experimenting to find out. The Lee Crimp die works well and I greatly prefer it to a roll crimp on rifle cartridges that require one. For Semi-Auto's like an AR-15 I prefer a taper crimp. But for most rifle reloading my experience has been that proper loading density and concentric bullet seating will result in more accurate and consistant loads than relying on a crimp. And in pure accuracy terms the fact the no benchrest shooter crimps is telling.........DJ |
| Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004 |
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