but so far I have found that if one wants to do accuracy testing in a rifle to start with a flat base Sierra bullet. This I am quite sure of.

Savage99,

I would generally agree with what you have said. I assume you are meaning that if you don't get going quickly with those bullets then you likely have a problem with the rifle etc.

Three other bullets I would include are the 130 grain Speer Hollow point for the 308 Winchester and the 300 grain Hornady 375 round nose and 500 grain Hornady 458 round nose.

Nosler Ballistic tips have also been good for me.

Mike

I have done a little testing with my 308 Bench rifle and I will NEVER use Sierra again. I had a 165 Matchking go through the paper sideways and can never trust them again. But of course that is just my experience and bad luck,but I still don't trust Sierra any longer. derf

Derf
A 1in48 twist is for black powder not smokeless powder rifles.

Covey16

Years ago when there weren't a great number of bullets out there for the handloader my dad told me "Speer in the field, and Sierras from the bench." I'm 67 so you can figure how many years ago that was. It's still true. I don't think there's a better or harder hitting bullet than the Speer Grand Slam. Yet, most of my time now is spent at the bench, and I'd be lost without my Sierras. Some things don't change I guess. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

Doc,

My comments about the other (non-Woodleigh) bullets were far from "aboslutes". The statement I made was a relativity statement of how these other bullets (non-Woodleigh) performed versus the Woodleigh Weldcore Soft Points, particularly in bore sizes of 0.366" on up. Since POP is speaking specifically of a load for his 378 Weatherby magnum, I felt (and still do) that my statement of relative performance among the various bullets being discussed is VERY SOUND and SPOT ON!

I hope I have at least made myself clear.

ASS_CLOWN

Doc & beemanbeme,

What experience with Woodleigh SP bullets do the two of you have? I know you have NONE, or you would not be making the statements you just made.

Have a nice day.

ASS_CLOWN

I think all have a valid point. Sierra is interested in accuracy and it don't take premiun bullets to punch paper, just accurate bullets. They always have made great varmint bullets. But lets face the facts, if you want to move a wagon you don't hitch a duck to the draw bar, get a jack ass. Sierra dosen't have any interest in premium hunting bullets unless your hunting paper bucks or bulls. Don't whip the duck because he would rather swim than pull your wagon. It has been concluded that for the hunter there are great bullets without Sierra.

I guess the new Ballistic tips are tougher than they used to be. The last muley I shot with 150gr BT in my 30-338 turned the vitals into "Jello", just liquified the chest cavity and the BT was not to be found.