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Dave

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I have not tried to send anything *ACROSS* the Canadian Border by UPS.

jim dodd

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hunt, you are too busy."

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Originally posted by old4x4:
Just use the US Postal service. I HATE UPS. They're slow and way more expensive. I've shipped guns, ammo, etc without a problem...ever.

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I vastly prefer USPS too; however - and strictly speaking - ammunition is a "non-mailable item" under USPS regulations, and unambiguously so. It's different with guns. That doesn't mean that ammo wouldn't be mailed regularly in practice; however, you should know it is not really allowed.

Regards, Carcano

When I did use them in the past, they trashed too many things anyway.

As I do this as part of my living, I will offer these thoughts.

Loaded ammo can be shipped UPS ground. If UPS shipped your ammo via an air route then they violated their own rules. Fed Ex will air freight ammunition. For UPS no hazardous paperwork is needed and no addition charges are added. If powders or primers, as components, are sent then the Hazmat applies.
For Fed Ex there is hazardous paperwork to fill out, for ammo.

For UPS it must be labeled ORM-D, with Cartridges, Small Arms underneath, on all four sides of the package. A square must be drawn around the ORM-D label. For Fed Ex it must be labeled ORM-D-Air and Cartridges, Small Arms underneath. Again, the square is required. Printed labels can be purchased if you do this a lot.

We often times encounter UPS personnel who do not know their own rules, so we have to explain them. Several times we have had to explain UPS procedures to the managers and to their own hazardous material support group who answer questions over the telephone. This is true of shipping ammunition and rifles.

For ammunition shipments across the border to Canada an export permit is required of the exporter and a license is required for each shipment. The exporter must also be registered, which is a $600 fee. If you are a manufacturer of ammunition and are registered you can ship across the Canadian border direct to the Canadian military with no license or permit, but there is a lot of paperwork involved to do this. There is a provision in the export regulations for a one time export of an item to Canada that does not require a license and permit. You must certify that you are not a manufacturer and that you are only doing this once. I have not exported under this rule so I don't know all the page and paragraph particulars. You will need to know these if you want to try to export a package this way. If you think UPS or USPS can get bogged down in their own rules, wait until you try working through an export or import shipment. Companies that export/import frequently employ whole staffs to do nothing but push through the paperwork and babysit the shipments.

The US Postal Service will not ship loaded ammo or components. Violating USPS rules can be a federal crime, so be careful here.

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Warren@lostriverballistic.com
lostriverballistic.com

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Originally posted by Warren Jensen:
The US Postal Service will not ship loaded ammo or components.

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The latter half is legally incorrect through generalization.

Propellant and primers (as well as incendiary or explosive bullets) are non-mailable. Cases and ordinary bullets are (of course) perfectly mailable.

Carcano