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Well fellas, I'm having issues with my scales, so I'm wodering if with win brass and LiLgun powder, in your exp. does 13gr pretty much fill the case with about 1/16 of an inch to spare?
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There is a clip on reloading the .22hornet on you tube, the chap uses 13 grns of lil gun and it pretty much fills the case to the top.
 
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Yes, it does. Tap the case side and it will settle the powder a bit. Remington brass is thinner so it has more room in it.

I use small pistol primers for ignition, a 45gr bullet and 13.0grs of Lilgun in my Ruger M77. I get about 2875fps, and excellent accuracy.
 
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Yup.

We don't see alot of Remington brass here but RWS won't even begin to hold that amount and a Guy here uses a Lee Crimp Die to hold the bullets in after that.

Best we've seen here in a long time is Winchester brass that will at least hold that quantity of powder. I lightly hold the full case on the lid of an operating Vibrator (the type used for cleaning brass cases) and that will settle it a tad more.

Enough so that; if you want to see a load really cook - try that W-W Super Hornet case with 13.0 grs. of LiLgun and top it off with a 35 gr. Hornady V-Max. You only need to seat the bullet just enough to compress the powder. Nifty 22 Hornet load.


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I load 13.2 lil gun in Win cases.
Tapping on the side of the case settles the powder enough.


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F-S

Yup.

We don't see alot of Remington brass here but RWS won't even begin to hold that amount and a Guy here uses a Lee Crimp Die to hold the bullets in after that.

Best we've seen here in a long time is Winchester brass that will at least hold that quantity of powder. I lightly hold the full case on the lid of an operating Vibrator (the type used for cleaning brass cases) and that will settle it a tad more.

Enough so that; if you want to see a load really cook - try that W-W Super Hornet case with 13.0 grs. of LiLgun and top it off with a 35 gr. Hornady V-Max. You only need to seat the bullet just enough to compress the powder. Nifty 22 Hornet load.


Thanks boys.
Gerry this the load and bullet combo I am trying, hopefully the small pistol primer will help with my spread on the high low chronograph readings, FS
 
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Yes. I'm using 12.6 grains of Lil Gun and getting just a little space to set the bullet on top.

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F-S,

Great minds think alike ..... Big Grin

We've been playing with different 22 Hornet loads for for years; the Teutons really know how to put accurate 22 Hornet ammo & rifles together since it's a VERY popular & extremely accurate target catridge over here.

RWS brass very consistant and well-made lasts a long-g-g time with reasonable loads. Their factory 22 Hornet Match ammo with their proprietary 46 gr. Jagd/Match Hornet bullet (Dunno if they're offered in the States) is ususally the default load for thumbnail-sized groups out of just about any resonably well assembled 22 Hornet rifle.

We began loading the W-W Super 22 Hornet brass 'cause of it's capacity (in our opinion good brass, too) because we wanted to try the 35 gr. V-Max's. I'm currently loading 2 SKU's for two rifles - only difference the RWS & W-W Super brass with corresponding reduced charge in the RWS brass.

The best primer we've managed for the job is either the RWS #4033 primer, which is specifically made for Hornet & .222 Remington or the less expensive but in every respect just as good Remington 6 1/2 primer. The use of the Remington 6 1/2 primer put to rest the constant dickering about Small Pistol/Small Rifle primers debate in the 22 Hornet for us forever. Other's experience & opinion will certainly vary but that's been our finding after thousands of Hornet rounds. You may want to give them a shot (pun intended).

Net, the W-W Super brass, with 13.0 grs. of LiLgun, a 35 gr. V-Max and a Remington 6 1/2 primer adds a whole new dimension to 22 Hornet fun. Easily accurately attains 3000+fps although the RWS brass w/their 46 gr. J/M bullet is loaded to the stadard 2550fps Hornet velocity. Either way, good, accurate ammo.

On Running Boar targets the 22 Hornet with a 35 gr. V-Max depicts a substancial velocity increase vs. standard Hornet loads as the amount of lead to whack the 10X ring is cut down to about the same amount as with a .222 Remington.

Have fun with your Hornet project.

Oh, Yeah, using the "More-of-the-Same; Has-to-be-Better" Syndrome - tried the 35 gr. Hornady V-Max's in .222 & .223 Remington also. Wow! 3900fps and a .5" group outa the .223 Remington. Bullet has the B.C. of a Ping-Pong ball but nevertheless spectacular 100 meter performance. Foxes carry like a jug of water because when you retrieve them they slosh on the insides. Gives a whole new meaning to DRT.

IMO Hornady has a real winner on their hands with this bullet!


Cheers,

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FS,

Your high/low chrono readings should still be there. With Lilgun, I've noticed that the heavier the bullet, the lower the SD.
 
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