Good day Just wondering what you guys have been using in your 7mm mags. I've been using 175gr nosler partitions for both deer and moose. My Honady ballistic charts show it as not having enough trajectory difference between the 140gr and 175gr to worry about. Anyone have more accurate information in trajectory between the lighter bullets and the 175 gr that I'm using. Thanks Mike
Posts: 257 | Location: Canada | Registered: 29 March 2001
I agree with Pop. I use 160gr Barnes X or Nosler Partitions if I'm using my 7mm Rem mag for deer or moose.
Some rifles don't seem to like the X bullets, but if yours does they sure penetrate well. Of course, so does the Nosler, and (perhaps) they expand a bit more in a deer chest.
Either way, venison!
Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002
I don't shoot a 7mm Mag.; however, I do shoot a .280 Rem. My favorite bullet in that rifle is the 150 gr. Scirroco....moly coated! At 2884 fps., it shoots very flat, very accurate (5/8ths group for 3 shots) and retains 70% of its weight on deer size game. I have one bullet recovered from small mule deer that weighs exactly 120.1 grain. That is right at 90% weigh retention. The mushroom is perfect also. Hope this helps some.
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Posts: 114 | Location: near Abilene, Texas | Registered: 04 September 2002
Mike, I wouldn't change a thing. That's a great combination. As far as the ballistic tables go, they are all about the same. That 175 will shoot plenty flat, for any reasonable range. The difference between the 140 Partition and the 175 is what, an inch or inch and a half at 300 yds? (given the same zero)
dI have always used 175 grain bullets in both of my 7 mags. In fact I deep throated my mags to be able to seat the longer bullets out as far as the the magazine will allow. If iam going to use lighter bullets then I will use my .270. Warren Page always advocated the use of the 175 gr bullets in his 7 mags. George
After reloading Noslers from 140 up to 160 grn. with various powders, in my factory Rem 700 7mm mag, I found the absolute best accurcy with a Winchester 150 gr. factory round!!! Who woulda guessed it?
I own two 7mm Rem Mags. They are both 700 Remingtons, one an early issue ADL w/stainless barrel and the other a "Classic" I prefer the 160 Partition for all work with these rifles, since it is superbly accurate in both and at close to 3100 fps, penetrates like gangbusters. I have never recovered one of these from a deer, only recovered one out of 4 from elk, and one out of 6 from moose. The ADL also shoots the 150 Partition very well, but I only recently tried it, so have not shot anything with it. Maybe next hunting season. Regards, Eagleye.
quote:Just a ?...What did everybody use before these so called SUPER BULLET'S came out...??????Mine would also be 168 HPBT............
Well, the Nosler Partition has been on the market since the early 1950's. So, there is no "before" for this bullet! The bullets made prior to that time are generally gone, except for the Rem. Corelokts.
I like a 170 in the 7mm. bore, wheter it be the 7X57, or the 7 mag. Penetration is always excellent, and on smaller game such as deer and antelope, will not be nearly so destructive as the lighter weights. Stick to what you have and be happy!
I am starting to tinker with the Barnes 130 gr. XBT. My first and only group was .83" @ 100m for 3 shots. I wouldn't hesitate to use this bullet on deer or moose, as a lighter X bullet will still penetrate as deep or deeper as a 160 gr. Partition.
For deer here in Saskatchewan I found that anything over 140gr is more than you really need. I tried 140 Nosler Ballistic Tips at 3000fps (downloaded a bit to take into account the thinner jacket). Worked fine on a big mule deer and several whitetails. For moose nothing less than a 160grain premium bullet. Why use anything less on such a big animal? Had good success with both the Nosler Partitions and the Barnes X 160grains at 3100-3200 fps. I have a Ruger #1 7mm Mag that seems to shoot quite fast. These are Federal Premiums and my own reloads. They are both in the same velocity range and below maximum in several loading manuals using H1000.
i load the 7 mag with custom 300 gr copper solid, and then lathe turn the belt off, and the head down to .500... and load the whole thing into a 50 bmg !!!
I'm also in there w/ the 160gr NP form my 7mm Dakota @3200fps+. I hve only taken up to elk size game but I would feel confident on eland/moose size critters using a good 160gr bullet. It shoots very flat & hits hard @ extended range. A side to using the heavier bullet, I took a pronghorn through the shoulders @ just over 100yds. The pronghorn went down on the shot, never got up and very little blood shot meat was found around the entry/exit. I'm sold.
Posts: 7752 | Location: kalif.,usa | Registered: 08 March 2001
I use a 160 gr Partition over a case full of H870. This load is for everything from pronghorns to moose. H870 has been discontinued. I will be working up a new load. Probably a 160 gr Accubond and RL19. If they don't work, I'll go with either a 160 or 175 gr Partition and try Rl19 and RL22 with them.
If I were you, I wouldn't change a thing. Very good load.
I'm using 61grs IMR4350 with CCI mag. primers. With my Hornady bullet I can punch one jagged hole, with the Partitions I'm up around an inch ( - + ) Plenty good for the good ol Moose Mike
Posts: 257 | Location: Canada | Registered: 29 March 2001
I use only the 175 gr. Nosler partition. It is effective and deep penetrating on nearly all game. Load it to 3000 fps, and it will shoot flat enough to shoot long distances, and it will penetrate all day long. Has worked for me on game up to and including a few eland.
My load:
175 gr. Nosler Partition 66.0 gr. IMR-7828 CCI-250 primer R-P or W-W cases