(Ref: 223 Remington) . . . Are there any comparisons of loads using Accurate 2200 versus 2460, especially with 40g bullets? Any pet loads?
I'm also interested in Rel 10X versus Rel 7, also with 40g bullets. I will be trying Sierra, Nosler, Berger, and Barnes bullets with various powders to develop a PD load for my rifle.
My rifle: Rem 700 BDL in 223 (i.e.: not AR-15)

I also should have included Accurate 2230 in my question . . .

Mind if I ask for what reason you picked the 40 grn bullet?

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Mind if I ask for what reason you picked the 40 grn bullet?

less recoil
seriously i've never seen reason to use anything other that h335

AA2200 is an amazing powder. Although I usually opt for powders on the slower end of the spectrum (relative to cartridge and bullet weight), and AA2200 would be on the faster end for the .223, I would recommend it as my first choice.

I've killed a 55-gallon drum full of prairie dogs with the 40 grain Nosler B.Tip or Hornady V-Max propelled by AA2200 from a .221 Fireball. But I suspect that the slightly newer and cheaper 40 grain Nosler Varmageddon might do equally as well.

I chose 40g bullets because another friend on AR told me it works well for prairie dogs, and being lighter than some other choices, it shoots a little flatter.

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Originally posted by butchloc:

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Mind if I ask for what reason you picked the 40 grn bullet?

less recoil
seriously i've never seen reason to use anything other that h335

yep .. i use h335 from 222 through 550 express

40 grain is highly frangible !!!

I use 40 grain bullets in my 223s, for prairie dogs with great results.
I have used H335 and Benchmark powders.

I can't speak to the 40 gr bullets but with 50 and 52 gr bullets I have had success with H335, Varget and Benchmark. In my experience 335 requires magnum primers, the others do not.

I, too, prefer 40 grain bullets for my .223 (I use it for ground squirrels).

I found 23.5 grains of IMR4198 to work very well with those 40 gr. VMax bullets, but when that became unavailable I tried LT-32 (24 grains). It's a tiny bit slower than IMR4198, and a tiny bit faster than AA2200. But it gives me every bit as much accuracy as the IMR4198, and it is now my go-to powder.

I've never used lighter than 50 grs in the .223, but my go-to powder is Benchmark.

I haven't seen any for a while, but I have a fairsupply of H4895, which I can use as well, so a change may be in my future.

My reloadind data says Benchmark will give really nice velocities for the 40, so it may be the way to go. Sorry, I have never seen any AA powders here.

As always, lots of good data and interesting perspectives. Thank you!

I have shot a couple .223 Rem's for a couple of years and have been very satisfied with Varget and BL-C(2). I recently discovered CFE223 and have been greatly impressed. Very accurate and the information from the AR shooters say it actually cleans copper out of the barrell. They say they are getting many more rounds before cleaning, so far I have to agree. I shoot the 52 grain Sierra HPBT. Good shooting.

Have a lot of .223 data using 2200 and 2230-C. Will share if you send me your E=Mail address. roger

bartsche,
PM sent . . .

phurley,
Thank you. I also heard about CFE 223, and the new enduron IMR 4166. I found 4166 but not CFE223 locally. load data on 4166 is scarce for 40g bullets.

Many thanks to Bartsche! Incredible source of data related to the 223 loads we've been discussing ...

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Many thanks to Bartsche! Incredible source of data related to the 223 loads we've been discussing ...

U R welcome roger

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Originally posted by phurley5:
I have shot a couple .223 Rem's for a couple of years and have been very satisfied with Varget and BL-C(2). I recently discovered CFE223 and have been greatly impressed. Very accurate and the information from the AR shooters say it actually cleans copper out of the barrell. They say they are getting many more rounds before cleaning, so far I have to agree. I shoot the 52 grain Sierra HPBT. Good shooting.

CFE 223 with a 53 Vmax is a launcher

I found some CFE223 locally. I have Varget, 2200, IMR4198, and just found some LT-32. So I'm ready to build some test loads. My issue now is a delay in mounting a scope I ordered (potentially counterfeit Zeiss ordered on eBay). Thanks again to all for the inputs!

BAL-C 2 Wcc844 have been my main one went through jugs of both of them

The old Accurate powder-1680 makes a 55gr. tip perform very well. I'm not sure if it's made any longer but if a container comes up at a gun show or yard sale it will do the job very well. It's also very good in the 7.62x39 caliber.

Those 40 gr. NOsler Balistic tips are deadly accurate and they are fragile, so what, unless your shooting deer they work fine on rock chucks and even coyotes...I use only two powders in the 222, 223, and 6x45, that is H322 and H335. I like H322 for bench rest and accuracy, but H335 gets more velocity and is within a smidgeon of being as accurate. If I had to pick one powder for everything it would be H335..

I do have exceptions on bullets however, if I am shooting rock chucks on the Snake River Canyon where the wind blows and updrafts can move a bullet quite a bit more than most folks realize, they I use the 60 gr. Hornady (also my deer load) in the 222 and 223..otherwise and mostly out my kitchen window my rock chuck shooting is with the 40 gr. Nosler, it will take a chuck apart in a red mist.

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Originally posted by deadeyejohn:
The old Accurate powder-1680 makes a 55gr. tip perform very well. I'm not sure if it's made any longer but if a container comes up at a gun show or yard sale it will do the job very well. It's also very good in the 7.62x39 caliber.

Yes, AA1680 is still made and is a fairly popular powder. It works amazingly well in anything from .22 Hornet to .45-70. It is my go-to powder in .221 Fireball, besting all others by a few FPS and yielding excellent accuracy. It is about 5-6% faster than AA2200 in most rifle applications, but don't take that as full gospel since the two powders behave differently depending on the size of case and bore.

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BL-C(2)