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| Go to a powder manufacturer's site and look up the MSDS - material safety data sheets. |
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| but there is a website i lost the link where you have all the info and even a picture of most of the reloading powders on the market. |
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| Here is what powder is made from; Nitroglycerin and cotton. Use Ether as a solvent. If you are going to make some, I am glad I don't live next to you. |
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| Posts: 1887 | Location: Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada. | Registered: 21 May 2006 |
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| that's cool. I was looking for that too.
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| there is a book, "the chemistry of powder and explosives," which is very informative. it is dated, but still interesting.
ETA: if you want to make smokeless powder, it does not seem that simple. the early factories had a bad habit of blowing up. it took the europeans a while to make it safely. |
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| quote: Originally posted by dpcd: Here is what powder is made from; Nitroglycerin and cotton. Use Ether as a solvent. If you are going to make some, I am glad I don't live next to you.
Actually single base powders like 4895 ans 4350 don't contain any nitroglycerine. They use a less energetic Diphenylamine or Dinitrotoluene sometimes in combination with nitrophenylamine. Nitroglycerine is trinitroglycerol - the extra nitrate makes it more volatile. It is used in the making a double based powders like Winchester ball powders and Hodgdon 414, HP38.
Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page.
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| You caught me on that one, my making stuff up I mean. |
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| quote: Originally posted by PaulS: Actually single base powders like 4895 ans 4350 don't contain any nitroglycerine. They use a less energetic Diphenylamine or Dinitrotoluene sometimes in combination with nitrophenylamine.
Nitroglycerine is trinitroglycerol - the extra nitrate makes it more volatile. It is used in the making a double based powders like Winchester ball powders and Hodgdon 414, HP38.
Really? My chemical engineer brother and I were looking at the data on the above site and it was his conclusion that the chemicals you list were decomposition products of nitrocellulose produced in the gcms, but he isn't an expert on propellant chemistry so we could be wrong ...
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| Diphenylamine is a stabilizer as I recall. Dinitrolouene and centralites are retarders. |
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| The Manufacture of Smokeless Powders and their Forensic Analysis: http://firearmsid.com/Feature%..._gunpowder/index.htm The chart above identifies the primer mix chemicals, the suppliers to ATK, and the country of origin. All 13 chemicals for primer mix are formulated by U.S.-based commercial companies, but 10 chemicals have origins outside of the United States. Of these 10 identified chemicals, 4 have origins solely in China, 2 others are only found in Mexico, and 1 is only found in Brazil. Three other chemicals share origins among the United States, European countries, India, China, and Mexico. http://www.almc.army.mil/alog/..._smallarms_ammo.html |
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